Have to agree with TDN 100% here. Shortly after the deal broke, I looked carefully at piles of captial plastics holders filled with Bryan Sonnier's Morgans at Laura's table and did not see a single coin I thought was even questionable. TomT.
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There is ONE Sonnier coin that I've seen that I think is AT ... and it's in a TPG holder so I may be out to lunch. I know why he sold and it had NOTHING to do with concerns about AT. Sheesh - if you're gonna try to make a point, at least don't flat out make up the facts to support it.
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I guess I have to defer to the retailers on this point. I'd like to know how much trouble the lawsuit has caused for retailers. Have collectors and investors lost faith in the market? Are they dumping their holdings? I haven't seen any of this, but like I said, I'll defer to the retailers. >>
I think we ARE seeing some of this. I believe more than a few collections that have been sold lately were at least somewhat motivated to sell out of concerns about AT. (Think Sonnier, Bear, for example. ) >>
Rediculous statement. Sonnier only sold a modest portion of his entire collection.
So Sonnier was worried about these too when he sold all of these nicely toned GSA mailing boxes to me at the same time he sold some of his other silver dollars?
<< <i>"PCGS/Coin doctors lawsuit lets some skeletons out of the closet that won't go back in"
I guess I have to defer to the retailers on this point. I'd like to know how much trouble the lawsuit has caused for retailers. Have collectors and investors lost faith in the market? Are they dumping their holdings? I haven't seen any of this, but like I said, I'll defer to the retailers. >>
I think we ARE seeing some of this. I believe more than a few collections that have been sold lately were at least somewhat motivated to sell out of concerns about AT. (Think Sonnier, Bear, for example. ) >>
Huh? Sonnier had no such concerns as a motivation for selling - I have no idea where you got that from >>
That was my thought, as well. And I doubt that all of Bear's coins were toned, in which case, that would not have been his primary motivation, either. >>
Not all of Bear's coins were toned. Sonnier was not concerned about AT--his former coins that were raw were slabbed by PCGS since the tightening of its grading, and most of the coins CAC'd too. Bear told me why he was selling his coins, and AT issues weren't the reason. I own 4 of the Sonnier toned Morgans and one of Bear's coins (toned CBH)--no way are any of them AT. Don't make things up.
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<< <i> "PCGS/Coin doctors lawsuit lets some skeletons out of the closet that won't go back in"
I guess I have to defer to the retailers on this point. I'd like to know how much trouble the lawsuit has caused for retailers. Have collectors and investors lost faith in the market? Are they dumping their holdings? I haven't seen any of this, but like I said, I'll defer to the retailers. >>
I think we ARE seeing some of this. I believe more than a few collections that have been sold lately were at least somewhat motivated to sell out of concerns about AT. (Think Sonnier, Bear, for example. ) >>
Rediculous statement. Sonnier only sold a modest portion of his entire collection.
So Sonnier was worried about these too when he sold all of these nicely toned GSA mailing boxes to me at the same time he sold some of his other silver dollars?
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<< <i>"PCGS/Coin doctors lawsuit lets some skeletons out of the closet that won't go back in"
I guess I have to defer to the retailers on this point. I'd like to know how much trouble the lawsuit has caused for retailers. Have collectors and investors lost faith in the market? Are they dumping their holdings? I haven't seen any of this, but like I said, I'll defer to the retailers. >>
I think we ARE seeing some of this. I believe more than a few collections that have been sold lately were at least somewhat motivated to sell out of concerns about AT. (Think Sonnier, Bear, for example. ) >>
Huh? Sonnier had no such concerns as a motivation for selling - I have no idea where you got that from >>
That was my thought, as well. And I doubt that all of Bear's coins were toned, in which case, that would not have been his primary motivation, either. >>
Not all of Bear's coins were toned. Sonnier was not concerned about AT--his former coins that were raw were slabbed by PCGS since the tightening of its grading, and most of the coins CAC'd too. Bear told me why he was selling his coins, and AT issues weren't the reason. I own 4 of the Sonnier toned Morgans and one of Bear's coins (toned CBH)--no way are any of them AT. Don't make things up.
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