Tell me its not so! The company that famed numismatist Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. founded became a Ponzi scheme under his son and is now bankrupt? Read it here.
<< <i>I can't see anything, how about a tiny description of what you are referring to, such as the 5 w's for brevity? >>
How about this one:
"15. In recent years, FCA funded its business expenses, including interest to the note holders and redemption requests, largely through new investments by other note holders and contributions from Eliasberg, his family and other entities Eliasberg controlled."
"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned."
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
"Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)
Total speculation here (isn't that what message boards are for??) - the $3M is no big deal for the family. Sounds more like a case of an old guy maybe not paying as much attention to his affairs as he should have. Hopefully the "investors" will all be taken care of.
Maybe, but findings #19, #21, and #22 certainly seem like they knew what they were doing and it was intentional. Yes, one would think the family would have enough funds to get itself out of that mess before it got in too deep, but who knows what its financial position was.
Mark, no I was not an investor! I was searching for information on Eliasberg Jr. because Stacks Coin Galleries recently auctioned off the numismatic items in his estate and I wondered why he would have so many choice world coins when what he got from his father was the US gold portion of the collection. I thought maybe Eliasberg Jr. was a collector in his own right, but I found no evidence to support that. I presume those world coins were simply remainders from his father that never fit into any previous auction.
Wow. Sounds like son was completely unlike father. I wonder if the proceeds of the recent Stacks sale will go towards making the defrauded investors whole.
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<< <i>I can't see anything, how about a tiny description of what you are referring to, such as the 5 w's for brevity? >>
How about this one:
"15. In recent years, FCA funded its business expenses, including interest to the note
holders and redemption requests, largely through new investments by other note holders and
contributions from Eliasberg, his family and other entities Eliasberg controlled."
"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned."
The name is LEE!
Very interesting link. I agree with your suggestion that this seems to be a Ponzi scheme. What a sad come down to Louis Eliasberg Sr.'s company.
How did you find that link? Hopefully you were not an investor!
Mark, no I was not an investor! I was searching for information on Eliasberg Jr. because Stacks Coin Galleries recently auctioned off the numismatic items in his estate and I wondered why he would have so many choice world coins when what he got from his father was the US gold portion of the collection. I thought maybe Eliasberg Jr. was a collector in his own right, but I found no evidence to support that. I presume those world coins were simply remainders from his father that never fit into any previous auction.