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PCGS Helps bust a Counterfeiter

19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
Hopefully, this isn't old news!

"PCGS Helps Police Nab Counterfeits Suspect

- October 27, 2009
These four photographs show a tampered PCGS encapsulation holder with a fraudulent insert. When the holder was cracked open it revealed that it housed the pictured coins, a genuine 1879 and a genuine Carson City Mint dollar that were split in two along the rim to create an "1879-CC." PCGS experts believe the diagnostic evidence indicates the 1879 Morgan dollar used in this case most likely was an 1879-S. (Photos by Professional Coin Grading Service.) (Santa Ana, California) – Information provided to Northern California law enforcement authorities by Professional Coin Grading Service led to the arrest of a suspect who is now under investigation in connection with the sales of fraudulently altered Morgan dollars in tampered PCGS holders for nearly $300,000.

"Genuine, common date Morgan dollars were split into two pieces (front and back along the rim), then adhered to each other in combinations to create the illusion of rare date and mintmarks. The coins then were placed in tampered PCGS holders to give the coin credibility in the marketplace and to hide the alterations," said Stephen Mayer, Chief Operating Officer of Collectors Universe, Inc. (NASDAQ: CLCT), parent company of Professional Coin Grading Service."

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image to PCGS
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    To the folks behind the investigationimageimage
    Good Job PCGS

    Stew
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hooray!

    Keep up the good work!!
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    JedPlanchetJedPlanchet Posts: 909 ✭✭✭
    This did get some recent press, but these are the first photos I've seen of the split coin. image
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Roberto Rodriguez...free on $45,000 bail. And free to flee to Mexico. image

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    Its a pretty easy fix. Use holders similar to ngc prong holders so people are able to view the rims. IMO several holders hide far to much of a coin in order to detect such a simple method of fakes.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    The split coin isn't really split. The useless half is machined away in a lathe. It takes 15 minutes to machine a split collet to hod the coin. I make two headed quarters this way in my garage. Here is one I machined the other day for another thread:

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    It might be fun to make a couple of these, glue them together, put them in an airtite and fool your friends. But I wouldn't want to waste two morgans. I'll think about some cheaper coins with the mintmark on the back that I could play with.

    It might be good to make this list anyway just so we would know to watch for these coins in fake slabs.

    --Jerry
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,504 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Roberto Rodriguez...free on $45,000 bail. And free to flee to Mexico. image >>



    How do you know he is not fleeing to Oslo, Norway??? Huh?? image
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully, the investigation will show that he was simply the seller and that the manufacturer was somebody else.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,934 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The split coin isn't really split. The useless half is machined away in a lathe. It takes 15 minutes to machine a split collet to hod the coin. I make two headed quarters this way in my garage. Here is one I machined the other day for another thread:

    image
    image

    It might be fun to make a couple of these, glue them together, put them in an airtite and fool your friends. But I wouldn't want to waste two morgans. I'll think about some cheaper coins with the mintmark on the back that I could play with.

    It might be good to make this list anyway just so we would know to watch for these coins in fake slabs.

    --Jerry >>



    I doubt if they were ground down. Why waste two perfectly good sides? Split an 1879-S and an 1884-CC and you can make an 1879-CC and an 1884-S.

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    Counterfeiter = bad guys


    Coin doctors = free pass


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