A complete grading set of just one year/one coin...

MORGANHUNTER2 · June 28, 2008 12:43AM

No- I don't have one put together just yet

, but I was wondering if anybody did have one that reflects the accuracy of the grade given, and a comparison to that. like a set from PCGS or NGC and for giggles maybe an Anacs or ICG set.

Who has what- if you have any?

garsmith · June 28, 2008 12:59AM

Smoeone posted an almost complete grading set of Ike's here a couple of days ago, all that was missing was a MS-61

Geoman · June 28, 2008 1:01AM

I started a grading set for Morgan Dollars a few years back to help me learn how to grade Morgan Dollars better. I choose the year 1881-S for my grading set. The reason for chosing a common date, was the higher grades (MS65 and up) won't be too expensive as other dates. However, it also proved a hinderence, as the lower grades (G-4 to AU-50) were impossible to find as no one would send in this date that isn't worth much. I ended up making a XF-45 and a AU-58 myself. The rest I bought.

Here is what I have so far, as I have not worked on this in a while....

1881-S PCGS XF-45
1881-S PCGS AU-58
1881-S PCGS MS-60
1881-S PCGS MS-61
1881-S PCGS MS-62
1881-S PCGS MS-63
1881-S PCGS MS-64
1881-S PCGS MS-65
1881-S PCGS MS-66

I'll post pictures if I can find them.

BECOKA · June 28, 2008 1:11AM

Best I can do is 3 grades from the 1836 Half Eagle. Working on more but if they are different grades it will only be coincidence.

DennisH · June 28, 2008 1:13AM

I have a complete PCGS-graded set of 1895-S Morgans from Poor-01 to AU58. You can see pictures of every coin on the Set Registry under "Collectors Showcase" here.

seanq · June 28, 2008 1:14AM

There's a grading set of Hot Lips Morgans in the registry with pictures, the collector who assembled the set is a board member. Link to the set in the Registry

Sean Reynolds

MORGANHUNTER2 · June 28, 2008 1:18PM

Other than Morgans or IKES, has anyone put together a set?

I would like to see what the thought is with the 81-S which most say was the best year for the Morgan series.

What about Buffs or a set date of Lincoln, maybe a Jeffie fan has started a set.

Speak up guys/gals/ and others of interest!!

MORGANHUNTER2 · June 30, 2008 2:22PM

I need to bring this up just to get a response?

Is this board getting lame and tried, I did not say tired becuz have of you numbnutz talk about fleabay and bullsquat-

show what ya got or use your brain of a NUMISTAMTIC nature.- quit whining.

seanq · June 30, 2008 3:35PM

I don't know of anyone doing the type of grading set you refer to in other series, but I can think of a few that would be cool to assemble and fun to see if completed:

- Barber halves
- Large cents
- Stone Mountain commemorative halves

I don't know if you would get the visual impact from a grading set of smaller denominations like Barber dimes or wheat cents, for me the subtle differences between grades are better shown on larger denomination coins like Morgans.

Sean Reynolds

oreville · June 30, 2008 3:53PM

I have nearly complete grading sets on two of my favorite coins of the 20th century:

(1) The 1945-P 10c in FB.

Have grades from MS-61FB NGC to MS-67FB also NGC with all PCGS in between. The only one that is missing is the MS-66FB.

(2) The 1972/72 DDO 1c

all grades in RD and RB up to and including MS-67RD. I have not bothered with the MS-68RD.
I jumped up and down on this board and stated that the MS-64RD, MS-65RD and MS-66RD 1c were awesome buys around 5 years ago. The prices have doubled since then.

morgansforever · June 30, 2008 10:07PM

<<I have a complete PCGS-graded set of 1895-S Morgans from Poor-01 to AU58>>

That's a cool set Dennis, makes a great resource too!

Funny just the other day, I was thinking of doing the same.

Scott

lope208 · June 30, 2008 10:39PM

<< <i>Other than Morgans or IKES, has anyone put together a set?

I would like to see what the thought is with the 81-S which most say was the best year for the Morgan series.

What about Buffs or a set date of Lincoln, maybe a Jeffie fan has started a set.

Speak up guys/gals/ and others of interest!! >>

It would get pricey for virtually worthless coins, but a 1964 Jeff grading set could
probably be accomplished pretty easily with all the '64's I find in rolls.
Then again, it seems like Jeffs would tough to grade in the lower grades when they
get mushy. And at least you can always sell a common Morgan in G4 for spot price.

Edited: I'd love to see any seated grading set!

19Lyds · July 1, 2008 6:53AM

Greeniejr · July 1, 2008 7:13AM

I remember at one of the shows there was a guy with a grading set of 1921 Peace Dollars from FA-2 to MS66 in PCGS, NGC and ANACS. This was all grades for each so 3 of each grade.

ambro51 · July 1, 2008 9:35AM

"""I jumped up and down on this board and stated that the MS-64RD, MS-65RD and MS-66RD 1c were awesome buys around 5 years ago. The prices have doubled since then. """

.....But you know that when inflation and cost of living is taken into account, you could have invested this in a mutual fund and reinvested the profit into a money market blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Nope....not my kind of respose just some off the wall sarcasm you know someone out there is thinking that...

ziggy29 · July 1, 2008 9:39AM

<< <i>.....But you know that when inflation and cost of living is taken into account, you could have invested this in a mutual fund and reinvested the profit into a money market blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Nope....not my kind of respose just some off the wall sarcasm you know someone out there is thinking that... >>

I doubt many people are thinking that right now. Unless the fund is in energy and commodities. Or maybe CGMFX.

oreville · July 2, 2008 2:52AM

Interesting thoughts guys;

The only problem with making a profit in the stock market (or even commodity market) and then buying the coins that also have gone up in value as well (even a smaller amount)
is that you have to pay capital gains tax first on your investments BEFORE freeing up the funds to buy th coins you wanted in the first place.

If the coins you seek goes up about 20-25% less than the expected rate of return of your investment will you generally have a breakeven point to defer purchases of your desired coins. This will vary depending on your tax bracket and state you live in. Of course, if your desired coin is irreplaceable then you have a decision to buy now or possibly never obtain what you want.

FullStepJeffs · July 2, 2008 4:19AM

The closest I have for Jeffersons is an AU58 - MS67 run, minus the MS60 grade. Unfortunately, most are not of the same year or mintmark, but it does give me a great deal of information for possible future grades when submitting to PCGS. I do have an MS64 - 66 grading set from one mint/date...

You can see many of the coins listed HERE which might give you an idea between 64 - 67 grades.

Hope this helps!

Steve

WaterSport · July 2, 2008 4:28AM

First, have any of you seen the new listing specifically for "Grading Sets" under the showcase sets? There you will find three grading sets. Hot lips, 1895 S and my set of 1922 D Cents. I am sure more would be listed if folks knew the listing was there to post.

WS

speety · July 2, 2008 6:36AM

Come to think of it, we have a seated dollar in every grade VF-35 through MS-64 missing only the MS-60, but this is made of all different dates.

For those who have put together a set, do you look for PQ examples or average examples? If PQ doesn't that defeat the point of a 'grading set'. This is the main problem I have with grading sets, I hate buying coins in an assigned grade when I know there are more 'PQ' coins in the same grade.

Mark

MORGANHUNTER2 · July 26, 2008 9:31AM

Some interesting replies on this
cept for the tutorial of the market bit.

My thoughts on the grading set was basically and obviously about what you have in hand and what YOU percieve to be at grade with the pro's.

some say maybe the graders are off- but if your eye tells you smoething is not right with how they have viewed your coin and you can simply show them why- would you not think that your coin (in hand) should be what is seen? Does this make sense?

I still like the 81-S morgan and to go smaller and probably a less costly battle- the 56 Franklin can be fun to do in BS as well as PR releases.

any more thoughts to invoke comment?

A complete grading set of just one year/one coin...

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