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When did collectors start caring about mintmarks?

Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭✭
As a collector of proof type, mintmarks aren't of much concern to me; however, I am curious when collectors started caring about mintmarks.

Was there a time when a 1916D Mercury dime was considered no different than a 1916P? Some have suggested that the Whitman folders and penny boards are what started the interest in mintmarks; however, I find it difficult to accept that the 1838O half wasn't a recognized rarity in the 19th Century.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    late 20's ?????
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    Augustus Heaton's 1893 A Treatise on Coinage of the United States Branch Mints is typically given credit for beginning to bring the attention of collectors towards mint marks.
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I really don't know, but I would expect it was hundreds, if not thousands of years before Christ.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    When it became common practice throughout the hotel industry. In the warmer climates prior to AC they left awful marks on the pillowcases.

    In truth is wasn't until the mid 1890s they became important after Heaton's book on mint marks.

    The 1890's is not in jest, Heaton's book did set off interest in US mintmarks.

    Link to Heaton's treatise on mintmarks, coin library
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Mint marks have been imortant in Chinese numismatics for centuries. Early Qing coinage (late-1600s) had quite a variety of mintmarks that collectors have hunted since the coins were issued, as far as I know.
  • MarkMark Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As GoldenEyeNumismatics and Walmann corectly replied, within the context of U.S. coinage it was Heaton's book that lead to collectors caring about mintmarks. Indeed, as I recall from my reading of the book (at least a decade ago) Heaton was unsure of what coins existed with what mintmarks and, again as I recall, he made some errors by listing non-existent coins. Perhaps 10 or 15 years ago I bought a cheap reprint of Heaton's book. It was a fun read. I enjoyed it because I thought the book captured an essential part of U.S. numismatic history.
    Mark


  • SottySotty Posts: 373
    As a kid back in 1947, I started to collect Mercury dimes by date before knowing anything about mint marks.
    When I saw d and s on the dated coins, I gave up, figuring there was a to z on every date, so I gave up,
    figuring there would be too many BU to find from circulation.
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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    << When did collectors start caring about mintmarks? >>

    As soon as the mint started putting them on coins.
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293
    I can't tell you how often friends have shown me their "Collections"

    -----and have no idea there are mint marks!image
    morgannut2
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    My Adolph A. Weinman signature :)

  • About the WWI era, there was a rumor that Ford would give you a new car if you could find a set of dimes with the mint marks of F, O, R, D and S. I have read that scam artists would come to town and sell the rare mint marks F and R.

    In 1955 my wife to be in Canada believed that if she found a set of US cents with those mint marks, she would get a new car.

    In those days, everybody seemed to know a 3 color male cat (genetically impossible, by the way) was worth $1,000.
  • pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461
    Mintmarks were no concern in 1860.

    Page from an 1860 coin and price guide.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fact that some of the early branch mint proofs (ie 1855-s quarter) as well as gem examples of early mint marks indicates someone or some people were putting away those coins. The 1838-0 half was no doubt a recognized rarity at the time since only a couple were made and none for circulation. Collecting mint marks may not have been more popular until the 1890's but it certainly existed prior to them imo.

    roadrunner
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  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    That 1855-S branch mint quarter is an extremely cool coin.

    Little known fact about its pedigree: the W.W. Long museum, from whom Dr. Edward Maris bought it sometime before 1886, was not in San Francisco as Breen and others have published. It was in Philadelphia, where Maris was from. And, better yet, the Long Museum counterstamped coins for advertising!

    John Clapp the Elder was a pioneer in putting away mintmarks, many ordered directly from the Mint when Heaton was just warming up to their collectibility.

    How about the proof 1854-S $20 in the Smithsonian? At least one cabinet was gathering mintmarked rarities that early: the Mint Cabinet in Philadelphia!
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    While Heaton’s monograph popularized collecting by mintmarks, quite a few individual collectors sought coins from the various mints long before 1893. As John K. mentioned, the Philadelphia Mint collection routinely saved examples from each mint from the annual Pyx. Individuals wrote to the mints requesting specimens as did representatives of educational and museum collections. We tend to forget the “little guy” who collected coins and whose accumulations never made it directly into an auction catalog.
  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    When it became common practice throughout the hotel industry. In the warmer climates prior to AC they left awful marks on the pillowcases.

    In truth is wasn't until the mid 1890s they became important after Heaton's book on mint marks.

    The 1890's is not in jest, Heaton's book did set off interest in US Mintmarks.

    Link to Heaton's treatise on Mintmarks, coin library

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