Step 1 This isn't actually the coin shown below, but I can't find those images at the moment. The coin shown below was also cracked out of a SEGS holder. (No problem holder)
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Cam-Slam 2-6-04 3 "DAMMIT BOYS" 4 "YOU SUCKS" Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized) Seated Halves are my specialty ! Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE ! Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!! (1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe ! IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF
I had a coin in a SEGS problem holder. Cracked it and PCGS slabbed it on the first try. Sold it for twice what I paid.
The funny thing is that I had previously tried to sell the SEGS coin, at a much lower price, to a couple people who know what they are doing & have been successful at this game a long time. They both passed on it.
1. Gettysburg (in my sig line below) NGC MS65 cracked out and now a PCGS MS66. 2. Norfolk NGC MS66 craked out and then into a PCGS MS65 slab then cracked out again resubmitted and now in a PCGS MS67 slab. 3. 1936 Texas PCI Gold Label MS65 cracked out and now PCGS MS66. 4. Bay Bridge old PCI MS63 cracked out and now PCGS MS64.
I bought a 1946 Walking Liberty half dollar in a older PCGS MS63 rattler holder at a coin show. After I got the coin home I reliezed it was a DDR! I cracked it out an resubmitted it to PCGS....it came back an MS64 DDR. A very low population coin with few graded higher.
My ONLY good crackout experience was with a 1904 $20 Double Eagle. submitted to NGC got an MS61 a few years later I cracked and submitted to PCGS and got an MS62!
Though this reply does not include a crackout and resubmit; I post it anyway just cuz the timing is great.
A minute before I opened this thread I cracked out my first PCGS slab (a 1965 MS65 CAM half). Darn things are made very well. In fact so well that while using two pliers and my prodigeous guns/rippling biceps and forearms to exert enough force on the slab to crack it, the darn thing splintered and a plastic slab splinter lacerated my left index finger.
I guess now I can say I have "blood money" and that I have "bled for the hobby"
Bought a full brockage half dime on eBay in a Hallmark photo slab for $265, and it came back VG-10 from NGC. Sold it for $750...
--Christian
You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
My most memorable crackout story was in the summer of 1988. At the LB show I had gotten back from PCGS an 1838-0 dime that I was hoping for an upgrade on. I had purchased it a month or so earlier at Stacks and it came back NGC 64 first time through. I was floored when I was handed a PCGS MS63 1838-0 dime, now worth $3500 less than when I began. Crackout #1.
Back then it really only mattered what the holder said. It almost didn't matter if it was nice or not, there were ready markets for both. The difference in price was negligible from LQ to PQ.
I took the coin around to any number of major dealers and was trying to dump it for near 64 money...which I figured it obviously was. No one would venture a penny above MS63 bid. The holder determined what they would pay. Their advice...get it back in the NGC holder. That was a good lesson in slab bias.
After the show I cracked the coin out and sent the coin back to NGC "hoping" to get it back to a 64. Didn't happen. They gave it a 65. The coin now went from $3,500 to $15,000. I sold the now pop 1 coin over the phone a few days later and was quite happy...that I got the upgrade and not the next guy had they purchased it as a 63 or 64 from me.
This was like Tinkers to Evers to Chance. $7500 to $3500 to $15000.
My only sucess was on a 1949 S Franklin Bought in an NGC Ms65 cracked out and sent to PCGS for a Ms64 FBL. Cracked out and resubmitted to PCGS and came back Ms65 FBL
nice 3 point jump on that one! first, they thought it would get maybe MS60 (but didn't deserve 61), only later to award it 63?! hmmm....... nice score!
I graded 20 sets of 10th Ann. ASEs. Got 3 RP 70s. Decided to crack out 3 69's and resubmit. In my crack out frenzy I mistakenly grab a 70 and crack it out. Do not realize until later. Oh the pain. My wife gave me a whole bunch of crap on that one. Sent them in 3 - 69s and the former 70. Got back 3-69s and 1-70. I was happy just to get the 70 back.
I have decided to keep my slabs away from the vice for a while.
You're having delusions of grandeur again. - Susan Ivanova Well, if you're gonna have delusions, may as well go for the really satisfying ones. - Marcus Cole
1900-O Morgan PCGS OGH MS65 -> PCGS MS66 1898-O Morgan PCGS Doily MS65 - > PCGS MS66 1891-CC Morgan PCGS OGH MS63 -> PCGS MS64 1883-CC Morgan PCGS Rattler MS64PL -> PCGS MS65PL >>
I would virtually guarantee that the 1898-O in a 65 Doily would sell for more money (and have more people chasing it) than the same coin once upgraded to a new 66 holder.
I had a dream, well nightmare that I cracked out my 2007 D MS66 PCGS FDI Washington with a smooth edge for resubmittal to SGS, 'cuz in my dream I knew I'd get a 70.
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This isn't actually the coin shown below, but I can't find those images at the moment. The coin shown below was also cracked out of a SEGS holder. (No problem holder)
Step 2
Step 3
Step 4
3 "DAMMIT BOYS"
4 "YOU SUCKS"
Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
Seated Halves are my specialty !
Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!!
(1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe !
IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF
The funny thing is that I had previously tried to sell the SEGS coin, at a much lower price, to a couple people who know what they are doing & have been successful at this game a long time. They both passed on it.
<< <i>How hard was it to crack the SEGS slab Jim? I heard those are tough to break. >>
I use an electric jigsaw. That considerably simplifies the operation
1. Gettysburg (in my sig line below) NGC MS65 cracked out and now a PCGS MS66.
2. Norfolk NGC MS66 craked out and then into a PCGS MS65 slab then cracked out again resubmitted and now in a PCGS MS67 slab.
3. 1936 Texas PCI Gold Label MS65 cracked out and now PCGS MS66.
4. Bay Bridge old PCI MS63 cracked out and now PCGS MS64.
Cracking a key date NTC graded coin and it coming back the same grade in a PCGS slab. Now THAT was sweet.
Beat THAT!
1877 Indian Cent I bought raw, sent to ANACS came back "Whizzed". Sent to PCGS came back AU58.
1916 D Dime bought in a PCGS G6 holder, sent to ANACS came back G4, back to PCGS, came back VG
Jonathan
I chose to add on to this thread to see if there is a renewed "crackout" fever afoot!!
Crackout Kid
<< <i>I chose to add on to this thread to see if there is a renewed "crackout" fever afoot!! >>
Nah. He had me until the "resubmit" part. I think it's just glorious cracking 'em out to put in an album.
Cracked out two Morgans from Ngc 65 and got back Pcgs 64 and 65
$12 coin:
$700 coin:
Russ, NCNE
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Not much but it IS a sucess!
TorinoCobra71
<< <i>Russ, I hope you sent that story and pic back to SGS >>
I wouldn't want to encourage them to actually look at the coins before sticking them in MS70 holders.
Russ, NCNE
A minute before I opened this thread I cracked out my first PCGS slab (a 1965 MS65 CAM half). Darn things are made very well. In fact so well that while using two pliers and my prodigeous guns/rippling biceps and forearms to exert enough force on the slab to crack it, the darn thing splintered and a plastic slab splinter lacerated my left index finger.
I guess now I can say I have "blood money" and that I have "bled for the hobby"
Was in an NGC MS60 Holder :-)
4 1 11797607 7969 1854 $3 US AU58
Was in an NGC AU55 Holder :-)
5 1 11797608 8000 1878 $3 US AU58
Was in an NGC AU55 Holder :-)
While nothing too earth shattering this was all in one submission. Look at the pop on the $2.50 piece. Yes, I sent the tags back to NGC.
1st submission, PCGS-53. 13K?
2nd submission, PCGS-55. 26K. No bull.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
<< <i>1878-CC $10.
1st submission, PCGS-53. 13K?
2nd submission, PCGS-55. 26K. No bull. >>
That's a supreme crackout!!!!!!!!!!!
and FatMan just made it all the better.
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--Christian
1900-O Morgan PCGS OGH MS65 -> PCGS MS66
1898-O Morgan PCGS Doily MS65 - > PCGS MS66
1891-CC Morgan PCGS OGH MS63 -> PCGS MS64
1883-CC Morgan PCGS Rattler MS64PL -> PCGS MS65PL
1878-S Morgan RAW -> PCGS MS64PL -> NGC MS65PL
Back then it really only mattered what the holder said. It almost didn't matter if it was nice or not, there were ready markets for both.
The difference in price was negligible from LQ to PQ.
I took the coin around to any number of major dealers and was trying to dump it for near 64 money...which I figured it obviously was.
No one would venture a penny above MS63 bid. The holder determined what they would pay. Their advice...get it back in the NGC holder. That was a good lesson in slab bias.
After the show I cracked the coin out and sent the coin back to NGC "hoping" to get it back to a 64. Didn't happen. They gave it a 65. The coin now went from $3,500 to $15,000. I sold the now pop 1 coin over the phone a few days later and was quite happy...that I got the upgrade and not the next guy had they purchased it as a 63 or 64 from me.
This was like Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
$7500 to $3500 to $15000.
roadrunner
Bought in an NGC Ms65 cracked out and sent to PCGS for a Ms64 FBL. Cracked out and resubmitted to PCGS and came back Ms65 FBL
Lafayette Grading Set
1900 Gold $5. Photo Insert MS60 PCGS 62
1916-D Merc Anacs G6, PCGS G6, PCGS VG8
1923-S Merc NGC MS61, PCGS DNC, PCGS MS63
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
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1923-S Merc NGC MS61, PCGS DNC, PCGS MS63 >>
nice 3 point jump on that one! first, they thought it would get maybe MS60 (but didn't deserve 61), only later to award it 63?! hmmm....... nice score!
I have decided to keep my slabs away from the vice for a while.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Started out as PCGS 63, then BB, then PCGS 64, then PCGS 65. Gotta love consistancy. >>
What coin and mintage???
Crrack.
Presto- PCGS MS64.
Cha-ching.
Happy Rock Wrens
You're having delusions of grandeur again. - Susan Ivanova
Well, if you're gonna have delusions, may as well go for the really satisfying ones. - Marcus Cole
<< <i>Crack outs:
1900-O Morgan PCGS OGH MS65 -> PCGS MS66
1898-O Morgan PCGS Doily MS65 - > PCGS MS66
1891-CC Morgan PCGS OGH MS63 -> PCGS MS64
1883-CC Morgan PCGS Rattler MS64PL -> PCGS MS65PL >>
I would virtually guarantee that the 1898-O in a 65 Doily would sell for more money (and have more people chasing it) than the same coin once upgraded to a new 66 holder.
<< <i>PCI (green label) MS62 1904 $20 Liberty.
Crrack.
Presto- PCGS MS64.
Cha-ching. >>
LordM, tell how you cracked it out.
DPOTD-3
'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'
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Don
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003