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I found this Friday in my Prez Dollars.

Light12Light12 Posts: 121
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Not to big of a deal, I'm sure there will be more problems then good. But its nice to find something when I search rolls. Sorry for the Poor quality pic. I was working free hand before I headed off to work.

Anyone want to name it for me. Everyone on Ebay has a name.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    "IN GOD OWE TRUST" ??

    Interesting error.

    I just cant think of a name other than Washington Rim Lettering Error Coin.
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  • BRdudeBRdude Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭
    How about the oowe edge, like I got an oweeimage Dang getting varieties alreadyimage
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ow. I forsee lots and lots of altered edges on eBay in the near future, especially false doubled lettering imparted by an easily counterfeited edge die.
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  • Light12Light12 Posts: 121
    I like it I'll call it the O Face dollar.
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  • perfectstrikeperfectstrike Posts: 677 ✭✭
    extra O in collar variety

    David
  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭
    Nice error!!
    I'd call it a wide spaced W E

    How many did you find?? More than 1?? D or P??

    Would be neat it it turned out to be a die error rather than a striking error.
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>I like it I'll call it the O Face dollar. >>



    I hope I'm not the only one who gets that image
  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭
    I just posted on my searching, I have found three coins with this extra 'o'; Philadelphia coins.
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  • Light12Light12 Posts: 121
    I just found the one in one roll. I didn't plan on searching many rolls because they are pretty ugly. It was a Denver roll. May pick some more up this week just for fun.
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  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    "the speared............no................pyssing minute.......................unh uh...................floating...........nope!

    uh......."climbing "O" variety!"

    yeah!...it climbed down to the edge !!
  • marxbuffmarxbuff Posts: 208
    Found this in a Denver roll, more then likely nothing spectacular.
    Lettering is approximately half gone all the way around the edge or very weak and then theres the pushed edge.
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  • ONETHREEONETHREE Posts: 1,126 ✭
    I found one today to on a roll of P dollars. It appears as if the small indentation used to separate the different mottos was accidenlty infused between God and we as well.
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  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭
    Any idea how this S, inverted, got transfered to the edge? I have found a few of these in hundreds of Philadelphia Washingtons. There are four or five letter transfers on this coin.

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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what junk....
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  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭
    Agree, junk. Production Q/C must be non existent. Still interesting to view, but then I spend hours looking for doubled dies and letter transfers on Morgans as well.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    It really looks like "edge errors" in this series are going to be exceedingly common and carry little or no premium.
  • grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251


    << <i>It really looks like "edge errors" in this series are going to be exceedingly common and carry little or no premium. >>



    Agreed.

    I still think doubled edge lettering would be cool to have though.
  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭


    << <i>It really looks like "edge errors" in this series are going to be exceedingly common and carry little or no premium. >>



    I agree. I think the blank edges will command a premium probably nothing else. I've looked at hundreds today and the exceptional coin is that coin without serious defects. That said, the letter transfers are interesting to me and I will keep them. I understand how one gets device transfer in an obverse/reverse die clash but I do not understand how this happens on edge lettering. You can't clash a circle as far as I know and I understand that edge lettering is impressed by a circular die.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I understand how one gets device transfer in an obverse/reverse die clash but I do not understand how this happens on edge lettering. You can't clash a circle as far as I know and I understand that edge lettering is impressed by a circular die. >>

    I'm thinking some of these pieces went through and received edge lettering multiple times.
  • blueifalconblueifalcon Posts: 963 ✭
    What garbage, in my opinion.image
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  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    fascinating!
  • DieVarietiesDieVarieties Posts: 307
    Another one?
  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭


    << <i>Another one? >>



    I will be interested in how this goes as I have a few very similar coins. I am waiting for the coin production experts to weigh in on how this happens.
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  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    the OWE edge Washie!
  • pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461 ✭
    A little girl with dremil and tack hammer can create all kinds of rim wonders
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  • DenverDaveDenverDave Posts: 2,164




    << <i>pb2y wrote: A little girl with dremil and tack hammer can create all kinds of rim wonders >>



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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,290 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Another one? >>



    I will be interested in how this goes as I have a few very similar coins. I am waiting for the coin production experts to weigh in on how this happens. >>


    Take a bzillion lettered edge dollar coins, dump them into large garbage bags for shipping, and edges are bound to come in contact with each other. To wit, this could just be a strategically placed bag mark. You could probably use one coin as a punch and impart the reversed edge lettering on another coin if you wanted. Fake edge lettering errors will proliferate on eBay to the extent that any legit ones won't be worth squat, except maybe for unlettered edges or partial collar edges (if this is possible).
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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a feeling that this type of edge engraving is going to bring out a lot of edge errors. they will be exciting to look for.
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  • redsreds Posts: 262 ✭
    Someone went through a lot of trouble to glue this "R" on backwards image
  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Another one? >>



    I will be interested in how this goes as I have a few very similar coins. I am waiting for the coin production experts to weigh in on how this happens. >>


    Take a bzillion lettered edge dollar coins, dump them into large garbage bags for shipping, and edges are bound to come in contact with each other. To wit, this could just be a strategically placed bag mark. You could probably use one coin as a punch and impart the reversed edge lettering on another coin if you wanted. Fake edge lettering errors will proliferate on eBay to the extent that any legit ones won't be worth squat, except maybe for unlettered edges or partial collar edges (if this is possible). >>



    John:

    I have 41 of these coins with some other letter appearing somewhere. Some are humorous (IN GOoD WE TRUST). I don't think this is bag marking. Every one is upside down and flipped. If contact between coins is doing this, there would be some that would be oriented properly on one axis. On some of them I can read portions of the motto with three or four letters in a row. That would be hard to understand under your proposed scenario. I also se more than one letter transfer on some coins 180 degrees separated on the coin. I think these are coins that got the edge strike then got passed through again although there are flaws in that theoretical process as well. I find them interesting; not as interesting as 7/8 TF Morgans but where can you get 500 of those for five hundred bucks to search through?

    I agree, there is not much numismatic value in this but it is quite a commentary on the poor produciton methods of the U.S. Mint.

    Rick
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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really have another feeling that there may be a more uniformed change before the next dollars are issued. These first issues may wind up being very nice to hold on to!!!
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  • DieVarietiesDieVarieties Posts: 307
    I just saw one with the all the edge lettering incused twice. Each is equal distance apart. It would appear this coin went thru the edge lettering machine twice.
  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭


    << <i>I just saw one with the all the edge lettering incused twice. Each is equal distance apart. It would appear this coin went thru the edge lettering machine twice. >>



    Fascinating. The mint can't be happy with how these are turning out I agree with bsshog40 that some changes are likely before the next production run. Still, not probable to have any significant numismatic value in my opinion but interesting.
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  • DieVarietiesDieVarieties Posts: 307
    Here's a pic showing the edge lettering GW that was twice incused. It looks like this all the way around. Each set is equal distanced apart. Weird looking.

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  • Light12Light12 Posts: 121
    That is cool. I would love to find that in a roll. I may have to grab some more this friday. I'm sure these dollars will have tons of problems, but it would be neat to find a "doubled" edge like that.
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  • RVDavisRVDavis Posts: 1,137 ✭


    << <i>Here's a pic showing the edge lettering GW that was twice incused. It looks like this all the way around. Each set is equal distanced apart. Weird looking.

    image >>



    That is very, very cool
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