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Three Dollar Gold Piece Raw

My dad bought this coin for me in the 1970's. The coin has been stored in a plastic holder in a safe
deposit box up until now. I'm having a difficult time grading this coin. I find gold coins in general to
be very difficult to grade.


These are also my first photos using a tripod. Comments on coin and photo are
greatly appreciated.
Bruce
deposit box up until now. I'm having a difficult time grading this coin. I find gold coins in general to
be very difficult to grade.


These are also my first photos using a tripod. Comments on coin and photo are
greatly appreciated.
Bruce
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Here is a Wikipedia stub on the Omega Man.
The PCGS guide has closeup pictures of these. The omega letter on them must really be microscopically tiny- I have never seen one.
If what PerryHall says is true, that's sad news for you, but I think Omega counterfeits are still worth a little in their own right.
I suppose their bullion weight is correct, too, then? At least it would be real gold.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Stinks for you in truely counterfeit
while this statement may turn out to be fact, i'd suggest that you get an "in hand" opinion from an expert, perhaps considering encapsulation from either PCGS/NGC/ANACS to be sure whether the coin is genuine. grading can be difficult from an online picture so i thinkl it's safe to assume that counterfiet detection is just as unreliable from an online picture, especially when you realize that the perpetrator of the Omega counterfiets was one of the best and fooled many.
get an experts opinion in hand on this.
photos courtesy of PCGS
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Sorry to tell you this but this date is very heavily counterfeited and this is one of them.
while this statement may turn out to be fact, i'd suggest that you get an "in hand" opinion from an expert, perhaps considering encapsulation from either PCGS/NGC/ANACS to be sure whether the coin is genuine. grading can be difficult from an online picture so i thinkl it's safe to assume that counterfiet detection is just as unreliable from an online picture, especially when you realize that the perpetrator of the Omega counterfiets was one of the best and fooled many.
get an experts opinion in hand on this. >>
Your advice is good, but as an expert on the subject I can say with absolute authority that that piece is an Omega counterfeit. The shapes of the letters on the obverse legend are distinctively bad.
Tom DeLorey
but the coin, based on
the scans, is N.G., IMO
In addition to his specific points,
the color and surfaces are wrong,
the strike is incorrect, and you can
see a casting mark in the center
between the wreaths, above the "3"
<< <i>In addition to his specific points,
the color and surfaces are wrong,
the strike is incorrect, and you can
see a casting mark in the center
between the wreaths, above the "3" >>
When you refer to the "casting mark," do you mean the bump (a likely flaw in the die, similar to a repeating depression, and thus a diagnostic of a fake) above the numeral 3?
Just trying to learn here...
There's a new book out by Bill Fivaz
on Counterfiet U.S. Gold.....I strongly
recommend it for anyone who buys
gold coins of any country........
"Lonesome" John Devine wrote a
similar book back in Nov. 1975 that
also contained info on cast counterfiets,
EDM dies, etc.....you see the book on
occassion on Ebay - for $5-$10, it's a
great reference book too....
But Bill's new book is in full color, with
tons of details photos, great info, etc.
please keep in mind that i don't pretend to have any knowledge regarding this series or these counterfiets, nor did i mean to suggest that others were wrong, i just think over-reliance on picturescan be a mistake and an expert opinion of the coin in hand is a more certain way to sort things out, and thus, more fair to the new guy.
I can't tell if it says Omega or not. Fortunately for me this is the only nonslabbed "gold " piece I own.
The coin in hand has a funny look to me, which also doen't bode well for it. Is there anyway I can tell
if the "coin " is actually gold or it's a plated coin. I certainly won't submit this to PCGS but at the next
Long Beach show I'll have a few dealers take a look at it.
I have no idea how much my dad paid for the coin or if the dealer even knew the coin was a fake.
But I doubt he paid any more than $150 for it. Still it sucks to be conned.
Bruce
I'll be happy to take a look at it at
the February Long Beach Show....
<< <i> Ow. An Omega? Well, that sucks, but at least if you're gonna have a counterfeit, it's better to have one of the nicer, name-brand, top-of-the-line counterfeits. >>
So true, and a great thread
<< <i>Does anyone have an idea of the value of an omega like this one? I saw that the high relief saints can bring over $1000 but im curious if anyone collects these at a premium over melt. >>
Put it in a gold bezel and give it to your wife to wear.
<< <i>Some of the grading services at Long Beach will look at it as well and give an expert opinion. >>
You can get free opinions from grading services at shows? I thought ANACS was the only one that did this and that they stopped doing it.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Some of the grading services at Long Beach will look at it as well and give an expert opinion. >>
You can get free opinions from grading services at shows? I thought ANACS was the only one that did this and that they stopped doing it. >>
That could be. I hadn't asked them to look at anything for a while. I've seen ICG give opinions to people, too.