By percentage gain, which of the upcoming 20th anniversary sets will the big winner?

KeithinMD · August 28, 2006 1:11PM

3 piece silver or 3 piece gold? Long/short term?

7over8 · August 28, 2006 1:15PM

3 piece silver. I believe it to be a $300 set shortly after sellout.

Many, many more potential buyers of the silver sets. Pricing is attractive too. Still within reach even at inflated secondary market prices.

pf70collector · August 28, 2006 7:56PM

Reverse gold may have potential only because it was never done in the series before and may not be done again with a 10,000 mintage.

zkcoins · August 28, 2006 7:58PM

<< <i>Reverse gold may have potential only because it was never done in the series before and may not be done again with a 10,000 mintage. >>

That is what I was leaning towards. However we have to understand that collectors made the mistake of 1995 and the 10th anniversary sets. although there may be some value in these over time, do not expect a repeat, JMO!

Zach

ABC123 · August 28, 2006 10:30PM

No mistake made in 1995. Gold & Silver combo sold for $999. Now selling for $5000+ for just the ASE W ! 30,000 sold then, now only 10,000 for 3 pc. Gold---Do the Math !

Conder101 · August 29, 2006 1:19AM

I think he means in general the collectors made the mistake of not buying them. Although even if they had it wouldn't have made much difference. Even if they had sold the 50,000 maximum mintage that still wouldn't have come close to satifying the potential market.

aficionado · August 29, 2006 1:26AM

The Silver set is a no brainer and percentage wise, short term, it's the winner. Could double or triple. Which makes the set $300, well within reach of collectors.

Triple the gold set and that's $7830. Not as many buyers. Plus what if the gold doesn't sell out. They could be for sale through the end of the year.

I'm putting an order in for the gold, I can always cancel, but I think it may be more of a long term investment as opposed to the Silver, which you may be able to flip as soon as you get them in October.(according to the Mint).

FYI, The Jackie Robinson MS had a mintage of 5200.

WheatFanatic · August 29, 2006 3:46AM

WheatFanatic · August 29, 2006 3:54AM

i'm interested in these as well.

even though the 3-piece gold is $2610, it only takes 2,000 people (or speculatorsdealers) buying 5 sets a piece to sell these out. Seeing as how the buffalos sold in huge numbers at over $800, i think it's safe to say that these will sell out quickly.

the 3 piece gold has two coins that are very limited- the reverse proof and regular proof with the W mark, both at just 10,000 a piece. both will be key dates for gold eagle collectors.

i'm going to buy two a piece of the 3-piece gold and silver.

brendanlam · August 29, 2006 4:05AM

imagine 3piece gold that all sellout tomorrow. then how much do you think it will go up in secondary market?

WheatFanatic · August 29, 2006 4:34AM

hmmm, we could see a sell out very quickly on the 3-piece set.

as to how much they would sell for, who knows? the skies the limit i guess but also how many people list on ebay at once.

i hope they sell for enough to give me one for free after selling the other

CoinResource · August 29, 2006 11:21AM

<< <i>the 3 piece gold has two coins that are very limited- the reverse proof and regular proof with the W mark, both at just 10,000 a piece. both will be key dates for gold eagle collectors. >>

I thought the W mintmark coin had a max of 30,000 (10K + 20K in secondary set).

rocky007 · August 30, 2006 3:54PM

This is all very interesting. I love hearing all the input from so many people. What I think from an amateurs perspective. And believe me I am an amateur. That purchasing any of the silver or gold sets (because of the rare reverse edition especially) that either set would be a good investment for anyone who can afford the initial purchase?

itsnotjustme · August 30, 2006 4:02PM

On the gold set the mintages allowed are:

Reverse Proof 10K
Regular Proof 47K (10 + 12 + 25)
Unc 30K (10 + 20)

stev32k · August 30, 2006 7:51PM

I hate to break the bad news to you guys, but I'm fairly certain both the gold and silver sets will go down in value. The reason is that I bought some of each and with my luck they are sure to decline in price.

zkcoins · August 30, 2006 7:59PM

<< <i>I think he means in general the collectors made the mistake of not buying them. Although even if they had it wouldn't have made much difference. Even if they had sold the 50,000 maximum mintage that still wouldn't have come close to satifying the potential market. >>

Correct! I believe the market for collectors of the silver eagles to be much larger than the gold for obvious reasons. Even still a mintage of only 10k for the gold makes me think the gold reverse proof coin will be the big winner of all the sets. The reverse proof silver could increase in price a bit but I doubt it will be anything like the 95.

Zach

raycyca · August 30, 2006 8:27PM

I believe the price on E-bay will be about $200 around Christmas time for the silver sets for those that forgot to order them from the mint. They are going to be required for the registry sets, and, we all know they will be required for the complete sets. I think the reverse proofs will be both pretty, and, in big demand in the future. The W mint coins will certainly help out. Short term I think will be a winner. After Christmas, I think the sets will drop because of the high mintages. The reverse proofs will increase slowly in the years along with the W unc coins to fill slots in the sets.

I don't think the unc two coin sets will be a good value unless the price of gold and silver increase dramatically. BUT, I think the 3 piece gold sets will be a fast sell out. The reverse proof will take a little time to catch on, but, like the Canadian coins, will appeal to the public along with the fast sell out and very low mintages. With the price of gold being very volitile, this will have some influence on the sets' price. If gold tanks, the price wil be resistant to a fast increase. If gold goes up, the price will increase quickly because of the gold content alone. I think the appearance will be better accepted by collectors because they have been around for years.

The Buffalo gold is nice, but, I believe the regular eagles have a following of sorts. This will help the price. With a mintage of 10K, it has a higher mintage than the CVC $5 MS coin. It has since tripled and is slowly creeping up. I got mine at the Capital at issue price. The price is limited in a way because it is not as heavily colected since it's a comortive coin and not a regular Eagle. Less of a following. Gold eagles have a following because of the registry as well as the numbers game for issue amount. Plus, the price of gold. If the collectors agree the reverse proof is pretty, need it for their sets, the sets will be broken apart to have them slabbed so the collectors an dinvestors' needs will be satiated. Once the sets' demise is noted, the complete sets' prices will rise. The initial 70 DCAM prices will be VERY high and probably higher than the Buffalo, so I would expect the first coin to sell for $6K+. It will level out at $3500-4K or more. The 69's will still be in demand because they are slabbed and guaranteed to grade and protected from the elements, and included in the registry sets.

Gold is not as colected as silver, etc due to price. But, with all the factors in this set, I believe, the individual coins will all increase in value. Not as dramatically as the 95 W coin though in raw condition. but 10 years from now when the mint continues the design, which I believe they will, they will be very highly sought after because the mintages will be the lowest. Look at the platinum prices. Of course these are just my opinions based on my obveservations and there's NO guarrantty of performance. But, I HAVE bought both the gold and silver sets and believe they will be beter than my stock selections in the past. Anyone want to buy any Linnux stock for $250 per share? OUCH! Ray

holeinone1972 · August 30, 2006 9:29PM

Well I see someone already has the 3 piece on Ebay for $3400. I certainly hope he gets it, so I can sell my extra one.

Rob

xbob · August 30, 2006 9:49PM

By percentage I think the Silvers may surpass the gold, unless the Mint issues starts issuing a reverse proof every year, or a similar 3 peice set. Even so, the 2006 could end up a first year key. My guess is $200 by year end, $300 by year end 2007. Whereas the Gold, with the high cost of ownership, may sell at a 50% premium this year and maybe a little more (75-100% premium) by year end 2007. The melt cost of gold could swing that as well, way up or down. These are guesses and nothing more based on a sell-out of each.

I think here's a good strategy, if you can afford it: Buy your max 10 Silver sets (+ as many gold sets as you can comfortably), sell off whatever it takes to break even by Christmas time this year, hold the rest for future selling but keep one set of each for yourself. If they really increase big over time you'll be glad you didn't sell them all.

Personally I'm "investing" in the silver sets, and collecting too. I'm too chicken to go into debt, and credit fees, on gold set speculation. Maybe I'll change my mind before sell-out.

7over8 · September 3, 2006 11:50PM

xbob has given good advice - buy max silver sets (10) and sell off at least 5 or more initially (doubling your money) leaving you with 5 at no cost (the gravy!!)
you have to "pull the trigger" soon, because they will sell out! The buffalo took about 2 weeks.

I waited until Dec 31 to buy the 95W sets, and bought 2 I couldnt afford at the time - still have one and made 5x issue on the other. If anyone remembers that offering- they were offered as a 5pc set at $999 until MIDNIGHT Dec 31, 1995.

You could call up the mint and order over the phone until then - but not after midnight. I liked the way the mint did biz then - none of this stocking product and selling it well into the next year.....

agentjim007 · September 4, 2006 12:05AM

I believe the 3 pc. silver set will be increase the most % wise. The ASE is highly collectible in unc. and proof. The 2006-W unc. required by unc. set collectors ( how many unc. AGE collectors by set? very few, who really needs an unc. 2006-W AGE? ) and reverse proof for the proof collectors. Sets could more easily double than the 3pc gold. If the order limit were 100 for the ASE ( or even 20, instead of the same as the gold) they would be gone by now, probably before the gold sold out. Having the limit held to ten is good. Maybe longer to sell out but dealers can't hoard these very afforabable sets and will need ours by Christmas. I will probably sell my extras at the local shop that wants them the most rather that fight ebay for and extra few bucks.

By percentage gain, which of the upcoming 20th anniversary sets will the big winner?

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