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TDN appreciation thread/Fall cleaning

shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
Before I do my annual Fall cleaning of old images I thought I'd post these for posterity.
TDN now has nicer Trueview images to replace these, but I really like the quality of these images.

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Are you saying these are NotTrueView? Sorry, but I've never liked the TrueView pics.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    sorry but these images are better any day of the week.
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Stop plagiarizing me, goose.image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • These look much more representative of the actual coin than what I've had done with TrueView.



    Jerry
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Cool pics!! Who needs truview?
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very nice all around image
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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    great photos much better than untrue view
  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yep, these are REAL photos. If this is house cleaning, keep on cleaning house.
    Doug
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    I'm surprised the TrueView defenders haven't been around.imageimage
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul is a great photographer, but there's nothing like the advantage of being able to take the image when the coin is out of the holder!



  • << <i>Paul is a great photographer, but there's nothing like the advantage of being able to take the image when the coin is out of the holder! >>



    I agree 100% with being out of the holders... Especially on toned proofs.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I realize folks sing the praises of Phil and TrueView, but Paul's images look like coins rather than looking like a hybrid of a coin and a print.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin looks exactly like this image.

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  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    Shylocks images look way better IMO, much truer to life and show the lustre.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shylocks images look way better IMO, much truer to life and show the lustre. >>



    Partially true. When shooting through plastic, it's near impossible to get enough light to get the darker colors correct, so one focuses on the luster. When Phil did my TrueViews, I specifically instructed him to focus on the colors and not the luster. I do remember one coin in particular, I asked him to show more of the luster.

    He followed my directions exactly.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shylocks images look way better IMO, much truer to life and show the lustre. >>



    IMO, some do and some don't. I really like his image of the 1868 above but don't like the image of the 1878-S. As I've stated, the TrueView looks just like the coin and Paul's falls short.

    It has nothing to do with a lack of ability, just a lack of opportunity.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    IMO, some do and some don't. I really like his image of the 1868 above but don't like the image of the 1878-S. As I've stated, the TrueView looks just like the coin and Paul's falls short.

    It has nothing to do with a lack of ability, just a lack of opportunity.


    I've always felt the only opinion that counts about coin photography is the person who owns the coins.
    He knows what his coins look like. And lets face it, I picked the best images I took of TDN's coins so this is a biased thread.

    TDN is the only collector who ever paid me to image his coins. Flight, very nice room & board, a great dinner, and great
    company. He's first class all the way, and I respect him as one of the great coin collectors of our time.



    All that said...I don't remember his 1878-S looking quite like this.
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    I agree with him that it looked nicer than my image (the last image in my post). It was cleaner and more vibrant.
    But TrueView takes this image into lala land.

    There's a crucial point that all coin photographers reach where they have to back down, let the image exist as it is,
    and not try to add to it. This TrueView image looks like it was added to. Too bright, too clean, and not what this
    coin looked like to me in person.

    I think TrueView caters to the collector's major weakness, wanting his coin to look like it does at the best angle and
    best light he ever held it under. Natural looking photographs are taken under less ideal conditions, so look natural.




  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed. With the new Set Registry software allowing more than one image, I'm thinking of having them reshot to emphasize luster ... and put both up. No single image can tell the true look of a MS coin... perhaps two will do the job.
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Simply amazing coins.image
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Simply amazing coins. That I agree with, TDN owns amazing coins.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wasn't the hype about the TrueView™ pictures that the larger, high resolution pictures look much better than the smaller ones we're accustomed to seeing?? that seems to hold true for what's in this thread.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, they do - much better:

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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I remember the complexity of this coin much better...

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