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What to do if you ordered a Cherrypickers Guide Vol 4 from J.T. Stanton

seanqseanq Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
I'm staring a new thread with this information, just to keep it separate from the sniping going on in the other thread.

I just hung up the phone with Dawn Burbank of Whitman Publishing. The long-awaited Volume 2 of the Fourth Edition of the Cherrypickers Guide will be published in early May (not late April as I was told earlier). They are in the process of scanning images and recompiling the text.

If you purchased a pre-publication copy of this book from J.T. Stanton, here is what you have to do:

You need to call the customer service center of Whitman Publishing at (800) 546-2995, and tell them that you ordered a copy of the book from J.T. They are compiling a list of names and addresses, which will be cross-checked against records J.T. is supplying to Whitman Publishing. If your name is on J.T.'s list, then Whitman will send you your book. If your name is not in the records given to Whitman, then it will be forwarded to J.T. for him to research, and you will then have to take it up with him. The way I understand it, Whitman is not filling the orders for J.T., but rather shipping them out on his behalf.

Now.... Dawn did say to me that they do not have the complete list of names yet, but they expect to receive them within the next week. I expressed that, based on the situations leading up to their acquisition of the rights to the book, I was concerned whether they would ever recieve that list from J.T. in the first place. I was told that the president of Whitman Publishing was working directly with J.T and that they were very confident that his records would be forthcoming and complete. I asked again if they had any contingency in place if the list never materialized, and her response was that Whitman's primary concern is to make sure their customers are satisfied and they would work with those individuals on the list to make them satisfied.

I told Dawn that I planned to share the details of our conversation with other collectors who had contacted me in regards to the book, and she was fine with me posting this information for others to read. She was also going to fill in the CSMs working the phones with the same information. Anyone with any questions about this post should probably direct them to whomever answers your call at Whitman.


Sean Reynolds

Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool Sean!
    I didn't pre-order so your work doesn't directly benefit me, but I did want to tell you "thank you" for taking the initiative and positiveness to make the call and take a few minutes out of your own time!

    And, you didn't even b*tch and moan while doing it (unlike some people).

    Very cool of you to make the calls and post the info!

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    Thank you senior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
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    Just called and gave them my info. Had to give them my OLD and new address since I've moved since that time.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks.
    Tempus fugit.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info. I'll call 'em tomorrow.
  • Thanks Sean for giving us long-time CPG Vol IV No2 pre-payers a little light at the end of the tunnel.

    Just an FYI. . .

    I prepaid via PayPal to JT so I went into PayPal and found I can pull up my transaction history back to July 31, 2003 and find the transaction where I prepaid JT for the book. It just gives me a little more evidence, other than some email from long ago, and it's something that would be a bit harder to dispute.

    Cool!
    Jeff

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    Semper ubi sub ubi
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Sean! Not sure why the other thread deteriorated into the spittin match that it did..... I for one appreciate ALL the info that anyone has been able to provide. It looks like we may have some resolution on it's way... just may take a little time to work it out.
    ----- kj
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Sean.
    image
    Larry

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just thought I'd bump this one more time for the overnight crew. I'm honored that no one has felt the need to quote the entire first post in case I decided to go back and edit it. image


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just thought I'd bump this one more time for the overnight crew. I'm honored that no one has felt the need to quote the entire first post in case I decided to go back and edit it. image


    Sean Reynolds >>



    We only do that to CoinCop image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • Thank you Sean and all others who have at least tried to bring this to a positive conclusion.
    I just got off the phone with them myself and they confirmed all that was stated here. They
    expect to ship the book in April. I almost asked if that would be the 1st of April.
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the news. I'm in the new address group also. Been worried about that.image
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • I called Whitman Publishing in Atlanta, talked with a lady named Vanessa and she took my name and address.

    Thanks again, Sean!
    Jeff

    image

    Semper ubi sub ubi
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If no one here minds, I'd like to bump this thread every once in a while, at least until the national coin press picks up on it and spreads the word out beyond this board. image

    *** waves to Beth Deisher ***


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If no one here minds, I'd like to bump this thread every once in a while, at least until the national coin press picks up on it and spreads the word out beyond this board. image

    *** waves to Beth Deisher ***


    Sean Reynolds >>




    Don't worry......she'll certainly publish something now that you've done the work.
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    TTT
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • wayneherndonwayneherndon Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭
    Any idea what happens to those on the list of names that have paid but aren't aware they're supposed to call in. Will they be mailed a book anyway? Seems like that would be the appropriate thing.

    WH
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems like that would be the appropriate thing.
    .
    It would seem that way ONLY to a defense attorney! image
    Spring National Battlefield Coin Show is April 3-5, 2025 at the Eisenhower Hotel Ballroom, Gettysburg, PA. WWW.AmericasCoinShows.com
  • PriestPriest Posts: 270 ✭✭
    Sean, I thank you for sharing this information, I was aware of this partly due to a C-W article, good looking-out for all involved.
    D.A. Priest
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sean, I thank you for sharing this information, I was aware of this partly due to a C-W article, good looking-out for all involved. >>



    Do you remember when you read it in Coin World, and if this thread in particular was mentioned? I was half-kidding when I waved to Beth Deischer earlier in this thread, it would be hysterical if they actually quoted it.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You'd be surprised Sean.... People take notice. I assure you.
    Kudos to you for your diligence in this matter.

    I remember that whole ANA saga and the words that flew around here certainly had an impact on those in the ANA. I am certain these threads are monitored. I read certain issues of Numismatic News with regard to the naming of the museum (blah blah), and several questions brought up right here, were DIRECTLY answered in one of those articles.

    Integrity is the glue bonding our hobby !
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    Not to open another can of worms but I also paid for Priority mail service! I know it is not a lot of money but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone know if they will honor that too? Is JT sending that info as well?? I doubt it. I will be glad to just get it! lol
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • Just got off the phone with Witman. They said shipping would be MAY 1st.
    pjlcoins on ebay
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    Yes but that will be regular book shipping. I paid an extra $8 for priority mail!!!!
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>Any idea what happens to those on the list of names that have paid but aren't aware they're supposed to call in. Will they be mailed a book anyway? Seems like that would be the appropriate thing.

    WH >>



    I would like to know the answer to this question, as I also paid back in july 03 and I have not called whitman

    Im sorry but this whole deal has just aggrevated me to the point of not caring. countless threads here, story apon story in regards to pre-orders and who would get what

    i gave up
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    let me also add

    seeing as he has had my money since 7/03, he actually owes me 2 & 1/4 booksimage
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Have you noticed that Whitman has now pushed back the "will be available " date at least three times now. image Where have we heard that before. image
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    I just wish JT would commment on this board. I know in the past he has.

    JT?
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>I just wish JT would commment on this board. I know in the past he has.

    JT? >>



    Ive heard all the stories, promises, etc

    not much more he can say
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    LMAO! I JUST CALLED WHITMAN AND THEY SAID IT WILL NOT BE RELEASED UNTIL AUGUST! I DID NOT ASK WHICH YEAR! LMAO!
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355


    << <i>LMAO! I JUST CALLED WHITMAN AND THEY SAID IT WILL NOT BE RELEASED UNTIL AUGUST! I DID NOT ASK WHICH YEAR! LMAO! >>




    Can't be. Fred said they would be out now. Are you doubting what Fred said?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I just wish JT would commment on this board. I know in the past he has.

    JT? >>



    Ive heard all the stories, promises, etc

    not much more he can say >>



    again...
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Let's see a show of hands of all those who believe this new date?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979
    Getting this book done is a pathetic effort at this point regardles of the circumstances. I've lost track of the first promised delivery date. Turtles could finish a book faster.

    They need to turn it over to QDB. It would be done in a month! He seems to write books 24/7.
    -Bob
    collections: Maryland related coins & exonumia, 7070 Type set, and Video Arcade Tokens.
    The Low Budget Y2K Registry Set
  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    HELL MY 8 YEAR OLD GRAND DAUGHTER WOULD HAVE HAD IT DONE!
    Big Tony from Texas! Cherrypicking fool!!!!!!
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Any idea what happens to those on the list of names that have paid but aren't aware they're supposed to call in. Will they be mailed a book anyway? Seems like that would be the appropriate thing.

    WH >>



    I would like to know the answer to this question, as I also paid back in july 03 and I have not called whitman

    Im sorry but this whole deal has just aggrevated me to the point of not caring. countless threads here, story apon story in regards to pre-orders and who would get what

    i gave up >>



    I can do this all night, wont change the fact that my moneys been had for several years nowimage

    Is patience a virtue?

    beats Meimage
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A few dates and a bit of history for those that care.image

    6/18/03 Ship date.
    2/8/04 Will ship end of 1st quarter of 04
    4/16/04 Will ship end of June of 04
    9/9/04 Huge offer made for book early in 04. JT nixed the deal.
    9/9/04 Book will be in hand for the Fun Show.
    9/25/04 JT lost all messages over 30 days old.
    9/27/04 Each section of the CPG will be posted on the web site as it is ready.
    12/?/04 Will be out soon.
    1/20/05 Access codes and passwords sent to those that ask.
    ?/?/05 Someone filed complaints with FTC & AG’s office.
    9/?/05 Ready for Fun in Jan.
    12/?/05 Whitman will publish book.
    2/14/06 Early May.
    4/27/06 Will be released in Aug.

    Did I miss any?image
    Larry

  • jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508
    Wasn't 6-18-03 the original order date (or somehwere there about)?



    << <i>A few dates and a bit of history for those that care.image

    6/18/03 Ship date.
    2/8/04 Will ship end of 1st quarter of 04
    4/16/04 Will ship end of June of 04
    9/9/04 Huge offer made for book early in 04. JT nixed the deal.
    9/9/04 Book will be in hand for the Fun Show.
    9/25/04 JT lost all messages over 30 days old.
    9/27/04 Each section of the CPG will be posted on the web site as it is ready.
    12/?/04 Will be out soon.
    1/20/05 Access codes and passwords sent to those that ask.
    ?/?/05 Someone filed complaints with FTC & AG’s office.
    9/?/05 Ready for Fun in Jan.
    12/?/05 Whitman will publish book.
    2/14/06 Early May.
    4/27/06 Will be released in Aug.

    Did I miss any?image >>

    Jeff

    image

    Semper ubi sub ubi
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wasn't 6-18-03 the original order date (or somehwere there about)?

    True.image
    P.O. NO.
    TERMS
    DUE DATE
    REP
    SHIP DATE
    SHIP VIA
    FOB

    CPG 4-2 PayPal 06/18/2003 JTS 06/18/2003 US Mail Savannah, GA
    Larry

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do I need to add a new date yet?image
    Larry

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