Need Help with 1921-D Morgan VAM - PICTURES ADDED

nesvt · May 22, 2005 8:32AM

I recently picked up four 1921-D Morgan dollars. I was able to identify three of the varieties, but am having trouble with the fourth. I have a VAM 1T, VAM 1W, and a very late die state JOH 10. The 1W has a nice break on the left wreath that I don't see listed in Rob's book. Also picked up a nice 1921-P VAM 8.

The 1921-D that I cannot attribute.... it has a bean shaped die break in the lower loop of the S in PLURIBUS. This is on the obverse, not like the VAM 5A with the chip in the 2nd S in STATES. It also has an extra berry on the right wreath. The "extra berry" looks like a dent in the die. It's on a leaf on the right wreath and appears as a large raised dot (same size as a berry). There's a die crack on the left wreath. Looks like a break across from the U in UNITED. There's a very small die chip just to the right of Liberty's mouth. Some minor die cracks on both sides. The largest is on the reverse over the second T in STATES.

Sorry for the description with no pictures. I might be able to take some shots later today or tomorrow. If the description sounds familar, please let me know.

Thanks.

Norm

Wolf359 · May 22, 2005 10:53AM

Probably 9B.

magikbilly · May 22, 2005 10:58AM

Wolf359 would know!

Billy

nesvt · May 23, 2005 4:26AM

VAM 9B? I had to do some searching on that one. Not listed in the 4th edition VAM book, not in the updates I got from Leroy this year, not on the ashmore site. I almost gave up... then decided to search the SSDC VAM-E newsletters. Still no luck. Checked Rob's site and found it listed..... but it isn't my coin.

My coin has different die cracks/breaks and other characteristics. I took some close-up photos through the microscope and made some full-coin scans. I can't find a listing for this one. Any ideas? About the crack over the AT in STATES... the surface area over the T is raised higher than the field below the crack. The bean-shaped chip in the S is in PLURIBUS. I forgot to mention the area to the right of the R in PLURIBUS is filled.

Any help is always appreciated!

Norm

nesvt · May 24, 2005 11:47PM

I thought I would try one more day. If there are no guesses, I'll send it off to Leroy.

messydesk · May 24, 2005 11:55PM

The bean in the S will be below the threshhold of significance that Leroy has for such things, as will the other die chips (wreath, mouth, perhaps the R). The fact that there are four of them might make up for the fact that they are small, so try and sell him on the quantity of these chips, rather than the size of any of them. The crack by the T in STATES looks like there's a plane shift in the die, and this would be the significant diagnostic for this one. There is another 21-D that has this, but I can't remember which one or where it is (VAM 1N or 1R, maybe?).

VAMs4U2BuyHere · May 25, 2005 12:15AM

Hi Norm,

I couldn't find a match in my research. I wish you luck if you submit it to Leroy.

Need Help with 1921-D Morgan VAM - PICTURES ADDED

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