Now, this is neat: Unique Jefferson die trial pattern strike

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• wingedliberty Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭

  October 26, 2003 1:25AM

  Yes it is, I wish I could afford it.

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• MrEureka Posts: 24,385 ✭✭✭✭✭

  October 26, 2003 1:59AM

  I love stuff like that! It's the type of thing that belongs in a museum, not in a safe deposit box full of 69DCAM slabs. I hope it finds a good home.

  Andy Lustig
  
  Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
  
  Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.

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• GDJMSP Posts: 799 ✭

  October 26, 2003 2:14AM

  Did you also read in your missed Coin World that there are more people who doubt the authenticity of that piece than there are who think it to be genuine ? Or that there is no evidence that can be found to confirm its authenticity other than the PCGS plastic that surrounds it ?

  knowledge ........ share it

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• Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭

  October 26, 2003 2:25AM

  I think it is a neat piece but I also think PCGS has put their foot in the attribution without proof of provenance mess again. Even the Coin World article stated that there was no conclusive proof that this was Schlag's work and it was being attributed to Schlag because the stretched S in States was similar to one that Schlag used in some of his works. But as far as I know Schlag only submitted one design, and what I see on this piece just doesn't look like Schlag's work. He had an Art Deco-ish style and he tended to use really odd letter fonts. It does have a feel like the work of someone who studied under Saint Gaudens but to me it looks more like DeFrancisci work except for the building itself.

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• Pistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭

  October 26, 2003 2:55PM

  The 1938 Jefferson nickel competition was an open one -- anyone could submit a design -- but all designs had to meet certain requirements:
  
  "The subject matter must contain on the obverse of the coin an authentic portrait of Thomas Jefferson. On the reverse side the subject matter will be a representation of Monticello, Jefferson's historic home near Charlottesville. In addition to the words required by law to appear on the coin, the coin may contain the inscription MONTICELLO, in order to identify the architecture. The coinage laws require that there shall appear on the obverse of the coin the word LIBERTY and the date 1938 and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and FIVE CENTS. The coin should also contain the motto IN GOD WE TRUST. None of the legends are to be abbreviated and should be in capital letters."
  
  To my knowledge, no one has specifically questioned the authenticity of the piece -- just the precise attribution. Without good evidence it came from Schlag (note that neither this piece nor the original Jefferson nickel design included his initials), it's tough to say that it's his work and not that of one of the other 389 artists who participated.

  John Kraljevich Americana
  Betts medals, colonial coins, US Mint medals, foreign coins found in early America, and other numismatic Americana

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• keets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

  October 26, 2003 3:09PM

  hey Randy
  
  you're a bit late on this one. it's been listed on eBay at least one other time and the seller had it in his showcase at the last Long Beach. i had mdwoods take a look at it for me. you might give him a PM if you're interested in his up-close-and-personal opinion of it.
  
  leave it to us to want controversy about an item like this. it can probably be proven to be his, but to prove the opposite will be much more difficult.
  
  al h.

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