Whats the biggest variance you've ever seen submitting the same coin (raw) to PCGS?

Singapore · June 16, 2003 11:00AM

I had a coin come back as an XF45 (which was ridiculous), cracked it out and it was called AU53 (which is in the ballpark) the second time.

About 2 weeks ago a friend cracked out an attractive AU53 coin hoping for an upgrade and it came back, really, as VF25.

I am not making this up.

braddick · June 16, 2003 11:03AM

<< <i>I had a coin come back as an XF45 (which was ridiculous), cracked it out and it was called AU53 (which is in the ballpark) the second time. About 2 weeks ago a friend cracked out an attractive AU53 coin hoping for an upgrade and it came back, really, as VF25. I am not making this up. >>

I've never heard of an AU coin coming back in such a low circulated grade upon a resubmission. That's nuts! What coin was it?

Singapore · June 16, 2003 11:06AM

It was a Connecticut colonial coin, which, due to vagaries of strike and planchet can be difficult (and controversial) for even knowledgeable colonial collectors to assess.

Lets just say that it isn't a PCGS specialty.

dragon · June 16, 2003 11:19AM

Singapore,

I've had one common date Morgan get 4 different MS grades from PCGS......65, 65PL, 66, and 66PL.

dragon

kranky · June 16, 2003 11:39AM

<< <i>I've had one common date Morgan get 4 different MS grades from PCGS......65, 65PL, 66, and 66PL. >>

And that was just while you owned it!

Bruggs · June 16, 2003 11:46AM

I pulled a 1939-S Jefferson out of a partial roll and sent it to PCGS via regular service. Came back as AU-58. Cracked it out and sent it economy and now it's in a MS 65 FS slab. Kinda makes a guy wonder................

Bruggs

cameoproofcoins · June 16, 2003 11:49AM

I had a coin come back in a body bag. I had a dealer talk to PCGS and resent it in. It came back 66dcam second finest known. A few of my coins had never been graded and when they were PCGS probably felt they were too good to be true. I was a little happy!

drainbamage · June 16, 2003 12:22PM

Humans grade them.... Humans make mistakes. A machine has no common sense, somewhere there has got to be a balance. I would guess that when it gets graded to what you feel is fair then leave it alone.

Singapore · June 16, 2003 12:29PM

<< <i>Singapore,

I've had one common date Morgan get 4 different MS grades from PCGS......65, 65PL, 66, and 66PL.

dragon >>

Dragon -

I'd go for the 67 if I were you - you're on a roll.

GDJMSP · June 17, 2003 12:52PM

<< <i>Singapore,

I've had one common date Morgan get 4 different MS grades from PCGS......65, 65PL, 66, and 66PL.

dragon >>

Kinda curious Dragon - is that the order from first to last that the coin was graded ? And what was the time frame inbetween grades ?

seanq · June 17, 2003 11:37PM

I have a clipped 1915-S cent in a PCGS EF45 holder which was purchased (on eBay) by a major dealer in an old ANACS cache graded MS61BN. I assume he cracked it to submit it to PCGS. (I remembered the coin because was the underbidder on the original auction)

I also recall a certain Bust Dollar going from PCGS EF45 to NGC AU50 to PCGS AU58, though I doubt it was cracked between submissions.

Sean Reynolds

Shamika · June 17, 2003 11:49PM

"...had one common date Morgan get 4 different MS grades from PCGS......65, 65PL, 66, and 66PL."

If the coin is a borderline 65/66 with surfaces that are almost proof-like, I could see this happening.

HOWEVER...

"...cracked out an attractive AU53 coin hoping for an upgrade and it came back, really, as VF25."

This last quote is hard to believe. It certainly gives credence to the opinion that PCGS does not grade Colonials very well.

Whats the biggest variance you've ever seen submitting the same coin (raw) to PCGS?

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