Can Collectors Buy Dies?
bigindie
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My wife asked me this a while ago and I didn't know the answer. I figured as silly as it may sound, I'll post it here and see if I can get some responses. So, are worn or cracked or otherwise unusable working dies available for purchase? I'm sure the mint doesn't sell them, but have any made it to the "black market" through "back channels?" (Sorry, I wanted to sound intriguing). If they are available, where is a good place to find them, and what kind of prices are we talking?
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Let your roots grow down into him and draw up nourishment from him, so you will grow in faith, strong and vigorous in the truth you were taught. Let your lives overflow with thanksgiving for all that he has done. --Colossians 2:7
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Russ, NCNE
http://catalog.usmint.gov/wcs/wcs_command/0,,cginame_a=ProductDisplay&querystring=prnbr;1A4+prmenbr;1000+cgnbr;STOH+parentCategory;,00.html
Here is an example when they have them.
Glenn
but a few made it out with relatively minor damage. The dies sold recently are
reported to be completely defaced.
There are of course foreign dies and token/medal dies available also.
The Canadian mint is missing sets of dies which were made for the Voyeur dollar.
When they disappeared in the mail they created the loon design to replace it.
That was posted in another thread by Numobri. It doesn't get any cooler than that!
Russ, NCNE
Glenn
Glenn
Federal law currently requires that the dies be ground flat before being sold.
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The next offering of dies from the mint came shortly after the 1992 Olympics. Dies used to strike the commemoratives were offered with coins struck from them. The faces of these dies were defaced by an X cut completely across the face but most of the devices are still visible. these sold well and for the most part have disappear off the market and are seldom seen.
The next group of dies to be released have been the state quarter dies. These were offered by the mint along with a quarter struck from them. In this case the entire face of the die has been ground completely frat with an abrasive grinding wheel. All traces of the devices are gone. These have been offered for at least three years of the state quarters. There is no Federal law that requires this complete removal of the face but the mint does it for "security" reasons to make sure that the dies are not used to create fake errors.
The object pictured by Russ is one of a few pieces struck, I believe for the Nevada State Coin Show, several years back using cancelled CC dies for a dollar, dime and half eagle. I believe a dozen or so of these were made and sold at the show. These are not the dies themselves.
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This is a die from the NY Statehood 25c I bought from the Mint.
The COA says:
To prevent unauthorized reproduction of the United States coinage, this die's original striking surface has been removed by the U.S. Mint to conform with security procedures governing circulating coin die disposition.
It also gives the DIE SPECIFICATIONS:
Producing Mint : Philidelphia
Die Serial Number : 1356915
Coin : New York Quarter
Type: Circulating
In Service Date: 02/24/2001
Press Number: 0083
Press Type: Grabener
Number of Strikes: 10
Retirement Date: 02/25/2001
Reason for Retirement : Come Together
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I wonder if a 10 coin strike makes is a rare die
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