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Unusual error (darkside but looking for help)

HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
Heres an unusual error:
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It appears to be a struck through scrap error but the scrap has left a brockage image on the obverse. The only theory I can think off was a piece of scrap metal was fed into the dies with a previous coin it was struck by the reverse die which may have been positioned above, the scrap metal then fell onto the obverse die and this coin was the next one to be stuck. The scrap piece of metal with a partial impression of the reverse die then left an incuse partial brockage imprint on this coin.

I know this is a darkside coin but I was wondering if any US error experts have seen anything similar and if my theory is correct?

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your explanation is spot-on, your coin was struck through a piece of struck scrap. The most likely origin for the scrap is a lamination from a previously struck coin which fell off or stuck to the obverse die. I have seen similar errors on US coins, most memorably a reverse of a 1926-S cent. No clue as to the value of your coin, but it is definitely high up there on the coolness scale.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    Your theory is close. I would say the piece of scrap metal was struck (no other blanks present), and either stuck to or rested on the obverse die (I do not know which die was the hammer die for British coinage), and then this coin was struck. It looks like the brockage fragment is at the proper orientation/position for a British coin assuming it did not move between strikes. These errors are also known for American coins, both with the scrap metal shifting or not shifting between being struck themselves, as seen below.

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for clarifying Sean and Aegis3.

    Probably not worth a huge amount as British errors aren't as sought after as US ones but I did think it was cool.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Your explanation is spot-on, your coin was struck through a piece of struck scrap. The most likely origin for the scrap is a lamination from a previously struck coin which fell off or stuck to the obverse die. I have seen similar errors on US coins, most memorably a reverse of a 1926-S cent. No clue as to the value of your coin, but it is definitely high up there on the coolness scale.


    Sean Reynolds >>



    I Agree, nice error
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for clarifying Sean and Aegis3.

    Probably not worth a huge amount as British errors aren't as sought after as US ones but I did think it was cool. >>



    Coolness is more important than value, and I agree with Sean on the coolness.
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Thanks the other cool thing I liked about it was not only must it have been a large piece of scrap metal but the way the brockage image starts perfectly at the top of Queen Elizabeth's head and ends at the lower part of her bust.

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