Should I have tried harder for this?

MarkInDavis · December 21, 2009 3:20AM

I am in the process of extending my WLH short set back into the 30's. It is all PCGS slabbed centered around MS64 some higher some lower. This one came up on the bay yesterday and I let it go. It is in an ICG holder, and the return policy was no returns. It looks strong for grade, but sometimes photos hide things. What do you think? It went ceap enough.

Edit: This is graded 64 in the holder it is in.

MICHAELDIXON · December 21, 2009 3:21AM

Looks like a nice coin. It will probably be nicer in hand than what the pics show. So...you should have bought it!

pakasmom · December 21, 2009 3:26AM

Sorry. But if I did eBay, which I don't, - I think I would have taken a chance with that coin. Especially since, "It went cheap enough."

Barndog · December 21, 2009 3:27AM

some wise person or persons said it before: if you want your coins in PCGS holders, buy them in PCGS holders.

LanLord · December 21, 2009 3:27AM

I don't know, something looks off to me. The fact that it's in an ICG might be a tipoff, might not, but I'd be concerned if it didn't have a really good return policy.

MikeInFL · December 21, 2009 3:28AM

Looks nice to me. BTW, despite what some eBay sellers may say, it is my understanding that if they take paypal, they accept returns.

coinguy1 · December 21, 2009 3:29AM

<< some wise person or persons said it before: if you want your coins in PCGS holders, buy them in PCGS holders. >>

Agreed, especially when the coin is relatively common.

soty27 · December 21, 2009 3:31AM

<< Looks nice to me. BTW, despite what some eBay sellers may say, it is my understanding that if they take paypal, they accept returns. >>

Correct,

No matter what the listing says about no returns, if you pay with paypal (and you just about have to on ebay) you get a return policy. Simply ask for a refund and if one is not given just file item not as described and viola your refund. I would assume the reason for the return would be a hidden scratch or some other thing not listed so it would be an item not described.

yellowkid · December 21, 2009 3:33AM

If I buy anything in an "off brand" TPG slab, I always consider the grade suspect and pay accordingly, it appears to be nice and i wish you luck!

I think I consider one of those slabs just some assurance that the piece hasn't been doctored, maybe I'm being too hard on them.

coinguy1 · December 21, 2009 3:46AM

<< 

<< Looks nice to me. BTW, despite what some eBay sellers may say, it is my understanding that if they take paypal, they accept returns. >>

Correct,

No matter what the listing says about no returns, if you pay with paypal (and you just about have to on ebay) you get a return policy. Simply ask for a refund and if one is not given just file item not as described and viola your refund. I would assume the reason for the return would be a hidden scratch or some other thing not listed so it would be an item not described. >>

What if there is a hidden flaw - which, let's face it, is almost always the case with images - but the assigned grade is still in line? Would you really consider such an item to be not "as described"?

Type2 · December 21, 2009 3:48AM

That is a nice coin maybe next time.

shorecoll · December 21, 2009 4:16AM

Mark, the way people on here say Paypal has been lately, you can claim it's the wrong shade of "bright" and Paypal will take the customer's side in a dispute.

golfer72 · December 21, 2009 5:21AM

Looks like a very nice coin. You didnt post grade but mentioned yours are all around MS-64 so if I assume this one went for about 60-70 dollars tops I would have taken it. Though I prefer PCGS slabbed coins i also purchase NGC, ANACS and even have one or two ICG coins. You can get good deals on these other slabs since the Koolaid drinkers reduce the demand for them.

TomB · December 21, 2009 5:29AM

The 1939 WLH is a common date in high grade.

dsessom · December 21, 2009 5:32AM

<< some wise person or persons said it before: if you want your coins in PCGS holders, buy them in PCGS holders. >>

What he said. I learned this lesson the hard way! (I seem to learn in the School of Hard Knocks a LOT!)

291fifth · December 21, 2009 5:37AM

Very well struck. You probably should have taken a chance.

JaPa · December 21, 2009 6:02AM

Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here.

19Lyds · December 21, 2009 6:10AM

<< Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here. >>

MarkInDavis · December 21, 2009 6:18AM

<< Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here. >>

I simply linked his/her picture. I did not create a copy of it. My creating a pointer to his/her publicly posted picture is certainly not illegal and not unethical either.

Barndog · December 21, 2009 6:22AM

<< 

<< Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here. >>

I simply linked his/her picture. I did not create a copy of it. My creating a pointer to his/her publicly posted picture is certainly not illegal and not unethical either. >>

he's grinding that axe in more than just this thread

nycounsel · December 21, 2009 6:25AM

What if there is a hidden flaw - which, let's face it, is almost always the case with images - but the assigned grade is still in line? Would you really consider such an item to be not "as described"?

In my experience, to some buyers "not as described" means "as described, but I want my money back"

LindeDad · December 21, 2009 6:28AM

<< some wise person or persons said it before: if you want your coins in PCGS holders, buy them in PCGS holders. >>

And would it of fit in the diferent holder with the rest of the set. And the 39P is common the D&S are not.

CEOGBOSE · December 21, 2009 8:07AM

I wouldn't recommend bidding on any Coin without a return policy. There will always be others.

JaPa · December 21, 2009 8:18AM

<< 

<< Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here. >>

I simply linked his/her picture. I did not create a copy of it. My creating a pointer to his/her publicly posted picture is certainly not illegal and not unethical either. >>

Sorry but you DID post the picture here. A link provides a place to click and go to the picture. You may not have copied it but you have used it. I'll allow someone else who becomes furious over the picture NOT being legal public property argue the case.

Yes SHE does keep grinding the issue as many here raise holy heck over their photos being used without permission and yet do the exact same thing themselves but I am glad the point has been made and I rest my case.

Staircoins · December 21, 2009 8:36AM

JaPa,

I didn't notice MarkInDavis giving you permission to quote his (or her?

) text in your reply either, but you seem to have done so of your own volition.

Maybe you should be more careful next time.

Edit: To the OP - Buy the coin, not the plastic. As others have posted, with PP you had a return privilege. Don't fret, though. Another will come along.

lkeigwin · December 21, 2009 8:46AM

Since all your Walkers are PCGS I'm guessing you would have sent this one in for slabbing. I don't know how "cheap" it was but when you add in grading costs, shipping, et al it might not have been such a great deal.

You should have no problem finding a nice PCGS slabbed one. Walkers of this era are stunning and I know you will find one you like.

Are you going to stop at 1935? Or are you thinking of tackling MS64 '33-S and '34-S? Even the '38-D is pricey.

Have fun and good luck!
Lance.

MarkInDavis · December 21, 2009 8:49AM

<< 

<< 

<< Wasn't it nice for the OWNER of that picture to give you permission to first copy it then publish it here. >>

I simply linked his/her picture. I did not create a copy of it. My creating a pointer to his/her publicly posted picture is certainly not illegal and not unethical either. >>

Sorry but you DID post the picture here. A link provides a place to click and go to the picture. You may not have copied it but you have used it. I'll allow someone else who becomes furious over the picture NOT being legal public property argue the case.

Yes SHE does keep grinding the issue as many here raise holy heck over their photos being used without permission and yet do the exact same thing themselves but I am glad the point has been made and I rest my case. >>

My post references the owners pictures. I have created no copy. If he or she moves or deletes the original my links point to nothing. You have no legal case.

Justacommeman · December 21, 2009 10:08AM

Mark. 39-P's come nice. You will have no problems finding another. MJ

lope208 · December 21, 2009 10:19AM

<< 

<< Looks nice to me. BTW, despite what some eBay sellers may say, it is my understanding that if they take paypal, they accept returns. >>

Correct,

No matter what the listing says about no returns, if you pay with paypal (and you just about have to on ebay) you get a return policy. Simply ask for a refund and if one is not given just file item not as described and viola your refund. I would assume the reason for the return would be a hidden scratch or some other thing not listed so it would be an item not described. >>

One of the reasons I hate using eBay and haven't sold anything on there since January.
The seller says "No Returns". If you are going to take a chance on an inferior slab, live with it.
Don't blame the seller and use the PayPal loophole to get your money back because you
want eBay to be an "On-Approval" service. The pictures are much clearer than most.

Obviously, the OP was a little concerned about the coin, and coupled with a no return policy,
I think he made the right decision to not bid. Just my opinion.

JaPa · December 21, 2009 11:45PM

<< JaPa,

I didn't notice MarkInDavis giving you permission to quote his (or her?

) text in your reply either, but you seem to have done so of your own volition.

Maybe you should be more careful next time.

Edit: To the OP - Buy the coin, not the plastic. As others have posted, with PP you had a return privilege. Don't fret, though. Another will come along. >>

The permission is in the quote button that is provided. And NO the pic will not disappear when the listing finally goes bye-bye. The way you posted it the pic WAS copied to this sites data base.

With running about 32 websites I know the proper way to link as opposed to copying the image to my databases. Now that IS my final comment on the issue.

Happy Holidays

MFH · December 22, 2009 4:29AM

I just want to say that I thought the 1939 Walker was very well struck
and that if another of the same caliber came along, I'd buy it, if I were you.

Should I have tried harder for this?

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