Finally made a Pop 1/0 coin (weak edge lettered) results in

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 4:17AM

Just hit a very weak edge lettered Monroe in my fifth roll of the morning. Going to call and see if PCGS still does FDI's.

Edited to add PCGS grades. PCGS MS65 James Monroe-Weak Edge Lettering-Position B.

I will add full pics of obv. and rev. when it gets back from PCGS.

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SUMORADA · February 14, 2008 4:29AM

Need pics..........................where are the pics?

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 4:31AM

I can do obv/rev pics but I havent figured out how to do good pics of the edge of a coin yet.

I've seen some people having luck with a flash light reflector. Dont have any full sized flash lights around but might pick one up this afternoon and give it a try.

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 4:57AM

Ok here are two images of coin held in hand. Best I could do on short notice.

The lettering does all show up under bright camera lighting.

When in normal room lighting I had trouble trying to line the coins up in identical positions on the lettering due to the lighter strike on the edge. The lettering almost disappears when not under very bright lights.

clackamas · February 14, 2008 5:08AM

Does PCGS recognize weak edge lettering as an error? I have a bunch of Washington's like that.

ahooka454 · February 14, 2008 5:11AM

The flashlight thing works awesome for these things. Regular blue flashlight from walmart or home depot.

BECOKA · February 14, 2008 6:05AM

I would think that some of the lettering would have to be unrecognizable before being considered as weak strike.

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 6:31AM

<< Does PCGS recognize weak edge lettering as an error? I have a bunch of Washington's like that. >>

Yes clackamas. See the link below for a Washington weak edge lettering completed auction.

closed auction

Silverstate · February 14, 2008 6:41AM

<< Just hit a very weak edge lettered Monroe in my fifth roll of the morning. Going to call and see if PCGS still does First Strikes. >>

You need to have those postmarked 2/14/08 to qualify.

How many have you found?

I'm always interested in buying....

Mitsuecl3338 · February 14, 2008 6:47AM

I found an awesome coin.

The T in Trus"t" seems none existent.

It also has many other makes look like other letters but cant be sure what happened with this coin.

No pictures yet will be difficult to show.

Silverstate · February 14, 2008 6:48AM

<< I found an awesome coin.

The T in Trus"t" seems none existent.

It also has many other makes look like other letters but cant be sure what happened with this coin.

No pictures yet will be difficult to show. >>

You need to send it into PCGS today!

Mitsuecl3338 · February 14, 2008 6:51AM

Ya think? send it in its a little error I dont think its that significant. Btw PO is closed oh well

19Lyds · February 14, 2008 6:52AM

First Day of Issue prexy bucks can get that label but must be postmarked today and you must submit 100 through the bulk submission program.

One coin just wont do it.

If I'm wrong, then I just saved myself hundreds of dollars.

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 6:52AM

<< I would think that some of the lettering would have to be unrecognizable before being considered as weak strike. >>

Possible. I havent had a weak edge lettered one in hand before so hard to say. I just knew that when I opened the roll it looked like a missing edge letter coin until I got my loope out and looked it over closely. I also knew that PCGS has given the weak edge lettering designation to previous issues in the presidential series. I could be totally off base but its in an envelope headed to PCGS in a few moments.

Mitsuecl3338 · February 14, 2008 6:55AM

will they accept if I preprint my label today? Ship tomorrow?

I dunno your opinion please

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 7:02AM

<< will they accept if I preprint my label today? Ship tomorrow?

I dunno your opinion please >>

It goes by post mark. I dont think that would work.

Silverstate · February 14, 2008 7:02AM

The coins need to be mailed somewhere with a postmark of 2/14.

You can mail them to yourself...
Then decide what to do later.

The unopened postmarked package date 2/14 or before will be good for First Day Issue.
No, you do not need 100 to get that designation.

Hey guys...I need some of those good finds!

Congrads to the coin hunters finding their prey !

sanitarium1inmate · February 14, 2008 7:06AM

I just sent a package today without errors but my PO is open til 7 here. I did call PCGS and asked if there was a minimum amount to send in for first day pres and he said you can send in as low as 1. But the price for just 1 would be a lot if the coin doesnt grade well as non-error. With shipping and all.

direwolf1972 · February 14, 2008 9:51AM

For better or worse its on its way now. Had to stop and take wife out to dinner for V day.

Did anyone find any of the quarter planchet ones yet?

Anything else good show up like MEL's or rotated dies?

19Lyds · February 14, 2008 4:32PM

<< The unopened postmarked package date 2/14 or before will be good for First Day Issue.
No, you do not need 100 to get that designation.
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I did call PCGS and asked if there was a minimum amount to send in for first day pres and he said you can send in as low as 1. But the price for just 1 would be a lot if the coin doesnt grade well as non-error. >>

From this thread:

<< PCGS Revises Guidance For First Day of Issue Presidential Dollars

Revised April 19, 2007

3. U.S. Mint Official American Presidency $1 Coin Cover Series. These are First Day of Issue Covers sold by the U.S. Mint, each containing two coins (one from Philadelphia, one from Denver), both from the first day of production. The holder is stamped and postmarked on the official first day of issue. Coins will be removed from the holder and graded separately. The original shipping boxes need not be sealed, but the covers must be submitted intact and unopened. A minimum of 50 covers may be submitted through the Bulk Submissions program. PCGS is currently developing an option for encapsulating the entire cover. PCGS does not offer a First Day of Mintage (or Production) option.

First Day of Issue inserts are only available through the PCGS Bulk Submissions program. Each order must contain a minimum of 100 coins (or 50 First Day of Issue Covers). All bulk orders should be submitted directly to the PCGS offices and will not be accepted at shows. If you have any questions about submitting bulk coins, please contact the Bulk Department at (949) 567-1216. >>

And from the May Revised Guidance:

<< First Day of Issue inserts are only available through the PCGS Bulk Submissions program. Each order must contain a minimum of 100 coins. All bulk orders should be submitted directly to the PCGS offices and will not be accepted at shows. If you have any questions about submitting bulk coins, please contact the Bulk Department at (949) 567-1216. >>

On the other hand, First Strike™ Slabs do not have a minimum submission number but First Strike™ is only available for Proof Presidential Dollars.
The OP's coin is not a Proof and therefore does not qualify for First Strike™. Add 99 to the submission and it would qualify for First Day of Issue. First Day of Issue varieties bring much larger premiums than non-FDI coins.

It is important to distinguish between First Day of Issue and First Strike™ when referring to the Presidential Dollars.

direwolf1972 · April 2, 2008 5:11AM

Bump for edited grade added.

baddogss · April 2, 2008 5:19AM

<< Bump for edited grade added. >>

Where's the grade?

I submitted a weak edge Jefferson and it came back w/o any error attribution, just a plain 'ol MS65. Out $40.00 plus s&h. I think the edge looked weaker than the one your showing. can do pics now because it's in a holder. Wife said "maybe it wasn't weak enough for PCGS?" Bob

direwolf1972 · April 2, 2008 5:23AM

Grades are in first post. I edited it so it would be towards the top.

I talked to PCGS cust. service the day I sent it off for submission (2/15/08). They said I probably wouldnt get weak edge letter the first time around since in the past it has taken them a while to recognize the variety on the earlier series. I thought why not go ahead and throw the variety on there just in case they were getting better at spotting them.

You might want to resubmit your Jefferson to get it added.

19Lyds · April 2, 2008 5:35AM

I cannot find the order through your link. Did you remember to Share it out?

sanitarium1inmate · April 2, 2008 6:42AM

My FDI order still has not been posted or shipped to me. Darn 20 to 30 day wait, I think it will be posted next Thursday being that will be 30 business days for them to have recieved my order.

SUMORADA · April 2, 2008 7:12AM

direwolf1972 · April 2, 2008 12:15PM

<< I cannot find the order through your link. Did you remember to Share it out? >>

I was linking it to my view of the submission. It is shared but hasnt been entered into the shared orders page yet. Took a screen shot instead of a link for now.

19Lyds · April 3, 2008 2:25AM

I am very curious to see your coin when it arrives and will be totally surprised if it does have the FDI Label as PCGS is very clear on the quantity needed for submission as pointed out earlier.

direwolf1972 · April 3, 2008 8:59AM

<< I am very curious to see your coin when it arrives and will be totally surprised if it does have the FDI Label as PCGS is very clear on the quantity needed for submission as pointed out earlier. >>

I'm pretty sure it will. I talked to PCGS cust. service about that also. CarolJ said that they were doing FDI's for non-bulk submissions. I at first told her I was trying to figure out what 5 coins to send. I thought they still had to be min. 5 coins for a economy submission. She said they had dropped that also.

direwolf1972 · April 6, 2008 12:33AM

19Lyds may be correct after all..... I talked to PCGS again on the phone late this week and it appears it didnt get FDI even though I was told previously it would. I'm still dancing this morning when they finally updated the Pop Reports.

Link added to first post.

Silverstate · April 17, 2008 3:30AM

So, did only one coin make a "weak edge lettering" designation out of 5 submitted?

19Lyds · May 14, 2008 6:25AM

<< The coins need to be mailed somewhere with a postmark of 2/14.

You can mail them to yourself...
Then decide what to do later.

The unopened postmarked package date 2/14 or before will be good for First Day Issue.
No, you do not need 100 to get that designation.

Hey guys...I need some of those good finds!

Congrads to the coin hunters finding their prey ! >>

I have just verified with two separate PCGS customer service reps that FDI Labels are ONLY available by submitting a minimum of 100 coins through the bulk service department.

1 coin here and there just will not get the label.

Silverstate · May 14, 2008 6:44AM

Lee,

I guess I was wrong on my previous FDI specs.

You did ask me again and I have found that it is clear.

First Day Issue is a Bulk Department thing, so 100 coins are needed and the postmark dated by release date of the Presidental Dollar or an unopened case to get the FDI labels.

It has been a little confusing in the past.

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