*PACK FRAUD ALERT* Ebay's biggest seller of '50s & '60s era wax packs is a pack counterfeiter!

Two days ago I received a PM from fellow board member (publius) telling me had won some vintage wax packs on ebay from a seller using the ebay user ID of (franksuggs) selling out of Winnebago, Minnesota. (publius) was considering bidding on this week's new round of wax listings by (franksuggs) but since he wasn't real experienced with vintage wax he asked my opinion of what I saw.

So I began looking over (franksuggs) current and past listings and I immediately saw that this seller always deletes the pictures in his listings two weeks after the auctions ends. This is a rare practice and it immediately reminded me of notorious pack counterfeiter (anderson84352) who I exposed recently and was kicked off ebay.

I also noticed (franksuggs) had a particular fondness for selling 1950's 1-cent bb & fb wax packs. And just by coincidence (anderson84352) also had an affinity for making and selling counterfeit '50s era bb & fb penny packs.

I too noticed that (franksuggs)'s earliest nickel packs would always have a shattered piece of gum (when the gum was visible to me). Ironically (anderson84352) also used this technique so that knowledgeable pack collectors would not be able to determine the actual size of the gum prior to it being broken. Authentic whole pieces of gum from the '50s era are extremely hard to find.

So I already had a feeling as to who this seller might be. But this seller (franksuggs) lists Winnebago, Minnesota in his listings as his location yet (anderson84352) lives in Muskegon, Michigan. But you guys might recall that (anderson84352) also used a second ebay ID (kenny92008) to buy his wrappers and singles. However he listed one of his two ID's as located in Michigan and lied about the other saying he was in located in California! Evidence that he will intentionally deceive to throw people off.

Take a closer look at (anderson84352)'s ID as well as his alias (kenny92008). Both begin with a person's name and are followed by a zipcode for a city outside of Los Angeles. Yet (franksuggs)'s ebay ID bears little resemblance to either ID. So I then used Ebay's (ID history) search to see if (franksuggs) has ever changed his ID. It turns out he had changed his ID three months ago--And his previous ID was (frank90013)!! And now notice the striking similarity to (anderson84352)'s ID and his alias (kenny92008). All three begin with a person's name and end with a zip code. And what city is 90013? You guessed it--Los Angeles!!!

So I was almost certain that ebayer (franksuggs) is the same person as notorious pack counterfeiter (anderson84352). So I emailed (publius) two days ago and told him my findings and that I was almost positive (franksuggs) was (anderson84352) and that he had been defrauded. But I told him I still needed to see where his packs were actually sent from. Let's remember that (franksuggs) lists his location in his listings as Winnebago, Minnesota whereas (anderson84352) did all his dirty work from Muskegon, Michigan--almost 400 miles away across two states and a great lake to boot.

Well yesterday I received an email from board member (publius) informing me he received his packs and just as I aniticipated, and feared, they were sent from Muskegon, Michigan. The delivery confirmation read: accepted at postal facility Muskegon, Mi 49444.

So this morning I decided to see if I could determine what other ebay ID (franksuggs) must be using to buy his wrappers and singles. Knowing (franksuggs) likes '50's era penny wrappers I focused in on any that have recently sold using ebay's (completed listings) search tool. Immediately I saw that an ebayer (hkplaza10) was bidding aggressively on every very clean '50s era penny pack--and he was winning many of them.

To my delight I also noticed (hkplaza10) opted to use the (private) feedback option so that no one can view the pictures of the auctions he won. It was to my delight because (Anderson84352) did the very same thing and chose the (private) option as well for alias buyer ID (kenny92008). So I entered (hkplaza10) into ebay's ID search tool and it showed his location as Michigan--just as I expected and hoped! It also showed that (hkplaza10) joined ebay on December 11, 2009. And guess what day (franksuggs) joined ebay?--December 10, 2009--just one day earlier!!!

So all the pieces of the puzzle have come together and as I suspected all along ebayer (franksuggs) is selling counterfeit vintage wax packs and is using a second ebay ID (hkplaza10) to purchased his raw wrappers, singles and inserts. I contacted fellow member (publius) this morning and gave him all I had found and he started a paypal claim this morning.

You board members might remember that (anderson84352) is none other than long-time pack counterfeiter (waxgold). So this is the same guy who keeps getting kicked off ebay and then resurfaces with a new set of ID's. As further example of his deceiving ways one year ago (waxgold) was selling bad packs and listing his location as Michigan but at the same time he was also buying vintage wrappers using another ID (bbwax) and listing his location as Kansas.

Here is a confirmed list of all the ID's this seller has used over the years on ebay to sell counterfeit packs and buy the necessary materials to construct them:

franksuggs
frank90013
anderson84352
kenny92008
waxgold
bbwax
toppsfleer231
ryan231231
quinterw
rainquaker

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