So a dude from Cali calls my buddy & offers him a PSA 10 Jordan RC, PSA 9 Aaron RC & PSA 8 C
RonBurgundy
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Tells my friend he got his number off of Craigslist. He supposedly has a PSA 9 Aaron Rookie, a Gem Mint Jordan RC, and a PSA 8 T-206 Cobb. He says they belonged to his dad and he inherited them and needs the money, so he is willing to take $15K for all three of them. He claims he just wants to dump them because he doesn't have time to go to an auction house and wait for funds.
Originally he told my friend he wanted him to deposit the money in escrow.com (WTF is that?) but now he is willing to meet him in person and do an exchange.
How many red flags are there here? My buddy is emailing me the scans but I am beyond skeptical.
Originally he told my friend he wanted him to deposit the money in escrow.com (WTF is that?) but now he is willing to meet him in person and do an exchange.
How many red flags are there here? My buddy is emailing me the scans but I am beyond skeptical.
Ron Burgundy
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nobody........i said NOBODY leaves that kind of money on the table.....the Aaron would be worth significantly more by itself.
just sayin'.
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The fake escrow scam is as old as the hills.
fake escrow
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The subject cards could well be high-quality counterfeits, AND
could be slabbed well enough to fool some folks in person. Or,
they could be junk from the "Hernandez Gang."
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Your friend should have the guy meet him in the lobby of PSA during their next Public Friday.
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The #s are too close together, almost touching.
None of the PSA flip variations have #s that close together
And the bar code starts to the left of the lettering, that's a bad attempt
Jordan PSA 10
I bet one of the following scenarios would take place-
1-Its a simple exchange and the guy is just hoping to sell these fake cards
2-He will get jumped, beat down and robbed
3-He will get robbed at gunpoint
Only a fool would consider going through with this.
Linky
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So first of all he's been banned but could creep back in. Nothing he has written is that terrible it's really more immature than anything else. And since this idiot that can't spell wants to have a little hunt lets start out with this contact information and see where we can take it. Of course with subpoena'd records we could go to his ISP and find out for sure but unless he does something really bad that won't happen...but he registered on October 19, 2009 with this info:
username vintage classiscs
name Edwin Arroyo
phone number 561 372 2329
edwin20099@yahoo.com
and the initial email upon registration was this information....no different but the more the merrier.....I will be speaking with the FBI today about this too...just to get some thoughts....
There is a new user, vintageclassics at Net54baseball.com Forums
To view their profile, go here:
http://www.net54baseball.com/member.php?u=4885
Email Address : edwin20099@yahoo.com
Birthday : May 31, 1990
Referrer: N/A
IP Address: 189.220.48.177
his IP addresss is 189.220.48.177
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<< <i>There is a new user, vintageclassics at Net54baseball.com Forums
To view their profile, go here:
http://www.net54baseball.com/member.php?u=4885
Email Address : edwin20099@yahoo.com
Birthday : May 31, 1990
Referrer: N/A
IP Address: 189.220.48.177
>>
Same guy trying to sell the Jordan on here.
I confirmed it.
IP - 189.220.48.177
Country Mexico Mexico
Country Code MX
Region Baja California
City Tijuana
Latitude 32.5333
Longitude -117.0167
Rosario Castellanos 10501, Zona Urbana Río Tijuana, Tijuana, BC, Mexico
storm888 note....... (Rosario Castellanos is a street addy, NOT a person.)
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confirmed
Host 189.220.48.177
Location MX, Mexico
City Tijuana, 02 -
Organization TV CABLE S.A. de C.V.
ISP Cablemas Telecomunicaciones SA de CV
AS Number AS28554
Latitude 32°53'33" North
Longitude 117°01'67" West
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% 2009-12-14 00:55:40 (BRST -02:00)
inetnum: 189.220/15
status: reallocated
owner: Cablemas Telecomunicaciones SA de CV
ownerid: MX-CTSC6-LACNIC
responsible: Cablemas Telecomunicaciones
address: Sevilla 4, P 6, Juarez
address: 06600 - M�xico - DF
country: MX
phone: +52 777 2410061 []
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person: CABLEMAS TELECOMUNICACIONES INGENIERIA
e-mail: ing_cablemas_gisp@CABLEONLINE.COM.MX
address: Av. Par vial, 303,
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IF we had a full-header email - like from his forum registration - we could prolly
track the location to a cafe or house/apartment.
That would NOT mean the perp was actually there, though.
Emails can be made to appear to have been sent from anywhere.
-Ticket Stubs
-Magazines
info off the internet, and then has all these high dollar cards for me. What? Am I special?
A person could sell those cards to any reputable dealer (of course they would have to actually have them)
Ron stop pulling our legs, you had no intention of allowing your 'friend' to
meet this guy.
lol
Steve
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<< <i>law and order PSA unit thats funny to funny. let me guess joe orlando and his misfits make up CSI PSA UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to funny >>
You know what's more funny? The fact that you are still here. You'll get yours.
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The San Diego County area of California (just across the border from Tijuana) has been a hotbed of identity theft as well as collectibles scams, because it's easy to get money in the U.S. and then cross back into Mexico, which has little interest in cooperating with U.S. law enforcement on cross-border crimes.
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<< <i>the only thing i got was laughs and more laughs. you guys think you are so smart and also everything is a scam. new guy trys to sell something scam, try to sell high dollar card scam. you guys and your scam thoughts to funny. i am just an honest joe. >>
say this out loud with a mexican accent
vintage classics = like every other community, noone wants to get cheated. There are some hardworking, honest people on here (myself included). For someone to want to cheat someone out of $15+ large, takes alot of gall. These users are very informative and will help to protect someone from getting cheated. Now, please take your fake cards and destroy them.
<< <i>vintageclassics, If I buy the Jordan card from you will you do my yardwork? The guys I had doing it got sent back to Mexico. >>
Vintage - seriously, if you and your amigos know how to hang sheetrock, the crew of illegals on my brother's house just up and disappeared last week.
Wond'rin' who is really in the driver's seat
Mindin' my bus'ness along comes big brother
Says, "Son, you better get on one side or the other."
I'm out on the border, I'm walkin' the line
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine.
After a hard day, I'm safe at home
Foolin' with my baby on the telephone
Out of nowhere somebody cuts in and
Says, "Hmm, you in some trouble boy, we know where you're been."
I'm out on the border
I thought this was a private line
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine
Never mind your name, just give us your number, mm
Never mind your face, just show us your card, mm
And we wanna know whose wing are you under
You better step to the right or we can make it hard
I'm stuck on the border
All I wanted was some peace of mind
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine
On the border
On the border
On the border
On the border
On the border
Leave me be , I'm just walkin' this line
On the border
On the border
All I wanted was some peace of mind, peace of mind
I'm out on the border
On the border
Can't you see I'm tryin to change this water to wine
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
Sick and tired of all your law and order
Sick and tired of it
<< <i>the only thing i got was laughs and more laughs. you guys think you are so smart and also everything is a scam. new guy trys to sell something scam, try to sell high dollar card scam. you guys and your scam thoughts to funny. i am just an honest joe. >>
Your whole act is so easily spotted. Why don't you post scans of the cards you are selling? Oh, I know why... because they are fake. I hope you end up in prison, I really do.
<< <i>i am just saying its entertaining thats all. you guys make me lough so hard tonight. this is like my entertainment >>
Many on this board are true experts, and the fact of the matter is that MOST things are scams when it comes to wax, high dollar card "deals", and incognito sellers. It's just the way it is.
This idiot can't even spell the word 'tries'.
Steve
If the bargain were real, they could easily sell on the open market, especially on something like the high end vintage collectibles market. There are plenty of reputable resources they could go through to get more than their bargain prices if their deals are legit.
I guess that's why most of us buy from Steve Hart at a premium rather than Joe Schmoe for a 'deal'
<< <i>the only thing i got was laughs and more laughs. you guys think you are so smart and also everything is a scam. new guy trys to sell something scam, try to sell high dollar card scam. you guys and your scam thoughts to funny. i am just an honest joe. >>
hello vintage, i have many wayne gretsky o-pee-chee rookies for sale. they was pulled by my father many years ago from a case we found in an old shed at a new house we purchase. they mean a lot but my dog needs fixing and i need to sell it. i do not know what it is worth exactly ecept that it is very rare. i can let all them go for 2000 dollers. you can send payment to me via western union just PM me for details.
many thank yous
Patricio