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1959 Fleer Ted Williams Box on BBCE... Group Rip??
tmgrnzx9r
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We should set up a group rip for the 1959 Fleer Ted Williams Box that bbce just got it!!
19000 divided by 24 packs is just under 800 per pack minus any kind of discount (doubt there will be one on this rare of an item)
19000 divided by 24 packs is just under 800 per pack minus any kind of discount (doubt there will be one on this rare of an item)
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Just under $800 per pack is still wayyyyyyyy too much for those packs. And if you were to bust them open, you would lose even more (PSA 8's of those cards are averaging $20 per card). I doubt very seriously that card #68 is in any of those packs. >>
Maybe I should go back and add to the set I started some time ago
<< <i>Maybe I should go back and add to the set I started some time ago >>
You should Halos Fan. I had the complete set. If you build it in a 6-8 range, it is VERY affordable. There are a couple of cards that are high, but for the most part, you can pick up high grades cards in this particular set for next to nothing.
<< <i>Why is card #68 so much more expensive then the others? >>
Card #68 features Ted Williams and Red Sox GM Bucky Harris. While Ted was under liscense to Fleer, Mr. Harris was not, so Fleer had no legal right to use his image on a card. The card was pulled quickly after production to prevent a lawsuit. It is still unclear as to how many made it out.....
I understand most of the original production (that did not get sent out to those who requeted it) was destroyed at the end of the year.
At 6 cards per pack, even if you pulled PSA 9s on every card when you ripped these packs you'd be hard pressed to recover an $800/pack outlay.
The only recent price I found on a slabbed pack was from a PSA 7 pack last fall (November, 2011). That one sold for $699. From what I hear this
box is very high quality, so the box probably grades out as 7s, 8s, 9s and maybe even a 10 or two.
If 24 people wanted to get slabbed packs I would think that as long as Steve offers his usual 10% off (getting the cost down to around $725/pack)
there is probably "fair" value here. Otherwise I expect it will await someone who is willing to buy the whole box.
Dave
<< <i>#68 Isnt possible in that wax box. Like said earlier it was in the early production when it was pulled. And during the early production they were 8 card wax packs. These are 6 card packs. You can only pull #68 Ted SP in an 8 card pack. >>
Great info!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>#68 Isnt possible in that wax box. Like said earlier it was in the early production when it was pulled. And during the early production they were 8 card wax packs. These are 6 card packs. You can only pull #68 Ted SP in an 8 card pack. >>
Nice tidbit Derek!
Dave
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
<< <i>thanks for the info on #68. Some have decided to bail on this board, but its great info like this that keeps me here! >>
Yes, it is a great forum.
Perhaps "some" might learn to live-and-let-live here in our communal sandbox.
Dave
What an incredible wax box to own.
<< <i>like any rare item...it has to do with the rarity. In this case it is not about what you may get if you bust packs--that's not why you buy this item.
What an incredible wax box to own. >>
+1
Dave
Very very neat box
<< <i>I'd pay a strong price for the empty box. >>
That empty box can be yours for 19 large.
meant no disrespect to you or nyone else really....and BTW, great info on that 5 versus 8 card pack. Tha's probably why there are NO 8 card packs out there...