Possible simple solution regarding the new PayPal policies-

ms70 · July 16, 2005 5:41AM

Inspired by wayneherndon's thread. Why don't sellers who want to continue to accept PayPal but only if not funded by credit card make this simple statement in their auction descriptions:

"Alternate methods of payment can be made. E-mail me for details."

And leave out any reference to PayPal in the auction. I figure it's an easy way around the rules. (Made a new thread so it wouldn't be buried too deep on the other.)

Ideas? Yea? Nay?

BigD5 · July 16, 2005 5:43AM

"Alternate methods of payment can be made. E-mail me for details."

and your email reply to such a question would be?

ms70 · July 16, 2005 5:44AM

<< and your email reply to such a question would be? >>

That I accept PayPal only if not funded by credit cards.

dthigpen · July 16, 2005 5:52AM

Are your margins that low?

Danegeld · July 16, 2005 5:54AM

<< Are your margins that low? >>

wayneherndon · July 16, 2005 5:54AM

Many people love to pay by PayPal and won't bid in the first place if it is not clear that PayPal is accepted.

WH

dthigpen · July 16, 2005 5:55AM

<< Many people love to pay by PayPal and won't bid in the first place if it is not clear that PayPal is accepted.

WH >>

I won't. 99% of the time I pay by Bank Transfer, too.

ms70 · July 16, 2005 5:55AM

<< Are your margins that low? >>

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ms70 · July 16, 2005 5:57AM

<< Many people love to pay by PayPal and won't bid in the first place if it is not clear that PayPal is accepted.

WH >>

The basic idea is that we here on the forums would know what that means from discussion, but I thought it might catch on in general after awhile.

BigD5 · July 16, 2005 5:57AM

I agree with Wayne and ManofCoins.

Bidders enjoy using Paypal as a payment source with Ebay auctions.

I don't like the fees either, but when dealing with an unknown seller, it does provide an added level of security, especially if funded with a CC.

Don't bother me with that paypalsucks.com site either. I've been enjoying Paypal for years now, without a glitch.

ddink · July 16, 2005 6:19AM

Unless PayPal is listed as a payment option, I'll not even take the time to email you. I just skip the auction.

LincolnsRule · July 16, 2005 7:37AM

<< "Alternate methods of payment can be made. E-mail me for details." >>

I've been doing exactly that for like a year now. I reply with the amount of the paypal fee, and politely ask if the buyer will split it 50/50 with me.

Dog97 · July 16, 2005 7:41AM

Yea? Nay?
NAY!
Reason being: Most of the time I email a seller with a question they give me some kind of non-answer, if they even reply.
Example, last month I wanted to bid on a $1,000 Proof 1897 Barber dime. Text Shipping was $16 with NO RETURNS but I couldn't tell from the pictures if it was white, toned or what because the pictures were dark & poor quality but it looked toned. I wanted to be sure what I was bidding on so I ask the seller to please describe the toning. So says he'll send me some pictures but he sends the same bad pictures from the auction listing and doesn't mention a single word about the toning. So I don't bid & it sells for a mere $800.
Another well known dealer Text had a $3000 BIN MS65 1897 Barber Half, 10 day auction, the pictures have a reddish tint but it looked like a blue purple periph, like I wanted. I ask them to please describe the toning, it was 9 days before the auction ended. No reply. The coin didn't sell. I would have BIN'ed it then & there if the seller had answered me.
So I still got an extra $4k in my pocket & 2 dealers didn't realize the max profits they could have.
So if the term aren't listed I don't waste my time.
In the meanwhile coinsbyhucky has a $3,000 MS63 1897-O Morgan listed Text and Pinnacle Rarities has a $6,000 Proof 66 1897 Barber Half listed and both of them gladly accept PayPal, without conditions. click click I snipe & win the auctions, click click & 5 minutes later the dealers have my hard earned $$ in their sweaty little hands & 5 days later I toss 2 more nice coins into my safe.
If you don't want to take PayPal that's fine. Put it in your auction that you take checks and I'll bid just as strongly. I got $$$$ & I like spending it. Make it EASY for me to give you my $$$$. If it's a hassle for me to get rid of my $$$$ then I'll just keep it in my pocket.

ms70 · July 16, 2005 7:54AM

Dog, What does the sellers not answering questions about their pics have to do with payment options?

Goldude · July 16, 2005 8:07AM

BigD5 lol when i bring up the paypal sucks thing don't take it personal, many people have been burned by paypal, and it's good that you haven't, but i always feel people need to know what they are dealing with before the unknown happens to them, if i would have found paypalsucks.com before i opened an acct with them i would have never opened the acct and wouldn't have had the problem i did with them, but your statement gave me a chuckle when i saw it, again it's nothing personal towards people who do not have problems with Paypal. Peace (-:

Dog97 · July 16, 2005 8:14AM

<<<Dog, What does the sellers not answering questions about their pics have to do with payment options?>>>
It's not just the picts, my point is MOST SELLERS won't answer questions about anything & even if they do they give an answer that's totally off-topic to the question being asked. Maybe it's their spam filters, maybe they don't have time, maybe they don't give a darn, maybe they don't understand how eBay messages work.
My point is that as a seller you want to make the transaction as effortless as possible. If bidders have to spend time emailing you for the terms before they bid you may lose bidders & potential $$$$, but that's just IMO, of course, but I think I make sense in what I said.
If you are one of the few that answer questions promptly then my hat is off to you ms70.

stman · July 16, 2005 8:42AM

Big Dog says..

<< In the meanwhile coinsbyhucky has a $3,000 MS63 1897-O Morgan listed Text >>

Hey that's a nice one. Guess you didn't like the one I sent you (I think it was a 1897-o)
But it was just a lowly ugly AU piece.

Dog97 · July 16, 2005 8:50AM

stman seys: "Hey that's a nice one. Guess you didn't like the one I sent you (I think it was a 1897-o)"
I still got it. Still 1 of my favorites. I'll never let it go. A lovely 1897-O PCGS AU-53 indeed.

MS70ORBUST · July 16, 2005 1:13PM

Credit cards are now, update your account and take the loss.

Possible simple solution regarding the new PayPal policies-

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