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Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
"very faint, barely visible milky shadows" are very light milk spots - not dark like the one on the OPs coin. Such milk spots should be no different than light toning that is not ugly or distracting. Therefore a coin with milk spots could (should?) still be MS70...unless milk spots are being viewed like scratches/damage,… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
@jmlanzaf said: Personally, I'm not 100% convinced that spotting should change the grade, and I'm a coin person. LOL. Why are milk spots worse than toning? I mean, they are generally uglier, but not always. You then go on to describe "very faint, barely visible milky shadows" which don't sound much like spots, particularly… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
Personally, I'm not 100% convinced that spotting should change the grade, and I'm a coin person. LOL. Why are milk spots worse than toning? I mean, they are generally uglier, but not always. I had a complete set of silver eagles in original holders recently. A number of them had very faint, barely visible milky shadows in… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
* That is NOT what physical means in that context. * What was the argument? * Physical harm indicates some kind of physical damage (scratch etc.) in the scientific sense. No one but you, in a futile attempt to carry on yet another silly semantic debate would refer to TONING as PHYSICAL HARM (emphasis added). Toning is… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
OK, to reiterate the argument for the THIRD time, milk spots are ugly and diminish the value of a coin while toning is often beautiful and enhances the value of a coin. Per the accepted definition of damage, something that enhances the value of a thing does NOT damage it. (I've already pointed out that UGLY toning DOES… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
I'm not sure the gold coin spotting is the same issue. I think they are referring to copper spots as opposed to the "milk spots". -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
Eye appeal is a factor in grading. The consensus is that toning can be attractive and help (or not hinder the grade). Ugly toning can hurt the grade. Similarly, milk spots detract from the eye appeal of a coin. And for a coin to have a “perfect” grade there is no chance at all that it should be allowed to have spotting. No… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
Well, both. But somehow spotting is considered damage not toning. And i'm specifically referring to very light milk spots, not the heavy ones on this thread. If an MS70 eagle tones in the holder, even ugly toning, it doesn't void the grade guarantee and no one wants to down grade it. Why the difference? -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
You keep missing the point - as usual. You can reiterate for the 10th time, it doesn't change that you are talking about a completely different issue. SPOTTING AND TONING ARE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES EVEN THOUGH THEY REPRESENT THE SAME KIND OF [insert your favorite word here - damage, physical harm, chemical disturbance,… -
Re: How do I file a significantly not as described claim on eBay?
Dipping coins with milk spots doesn't work.
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