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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,536 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edynamicmarketing seems to use a torch (Ebay ID)





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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sure looks nice to me! That is one heck of a torch!
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $475 its all yours
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ambro51

    $475 its all yours




    Where is it for sale?
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a " special deal" just for you because its only worth five cents. But hey VRT has Value!!!
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT? Are you kidding? This is classic album toning, which, as we all know, gradually accumulates during decades of storage..........



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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder how many times that would have to get sent in before it straight-grades? image

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ms70

    I wonder how many times that would have to get sent in before it straight-grades? image






    Does this answer your question?



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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Or this............



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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .....well it IS "NT", providing you live somewhere its 1600 degrees in July! Haha seriously pcgs would AT code it in a Genuine slab then some Noob would buy it on eBay for $475 because pcgs said the colors were "Genuine". I don't play that game. When I spend it tomorrow at Wawa getting coffee ill let you know if the clerk says anything. "Duuuhhhh I can't take this its AT"
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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like to call this "MWT" for... Marceles Wallace toning
    The more you VAM..
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first nickel posted at the beginning of this thread looks more like chemical toning than heat toining.
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: bolivarshagnasty

    Originally posted by: ms70

    I wonder how many times that would have to get sent in before it straight-grades? image






    Does this answer your question?



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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dcarr

    The first nickel posted at the beginning of this thread looks more like chemical toning than heat toining.







    These are all from the same seller on Ebay. He calls them "heat toned". The Washington above is one of his that made it into a straight graded holder. He has a new "batch" on Ebay now.



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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would call that heat tarnish.... having made a few of those in my experiments. I have done similar in a frying pan, heat box and although I tried a torch, it was not nearly as successful. None of those experiments ever left my house in the condition achieved. Chemical and heat combined is the fastest method.....the nickel in the OP could well be from that process. Cheers, RickO
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Plain and simple held by a small clip in the flame of a standard propane torch until color starts to appear then left to cool. No magic.
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ambro51
    .....well it IS "NT", providing you live somewhere its 1600 degrees in July! Haha seriously pcgs would AT code it in a Genuine slab then some Noob would buy it on eBay for $475 because pcgs said the colors were "Genuine". I don't play that game. When I spend it tomorrow at Wawa getting coffee ill let you know if the clerk says anything. "Duuuhhhh I can't take this its AT"


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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FWIW, it's actually pretty.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes. And it should be viewed as a learning experience to anyone who throws down Silly Money for VRT Moderns!!!!!
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    Originally posted by: bolivarshagnasty
    Originally posted by: ms70
    I wonder how many times that would have to get sent in before it straight-grades? image



    Does this answer your question?

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    There are so many numerically graded AT coins in PCGS slabs, it's not even funny. At least on the modern side of things anyway. For supposedly being the best 3PG in the industry, they sure do let an insane number of these through.

    I wonder if there is a technical reason that they can't disqualify coin from receiving a numerical grade, even though the toning process has clearly been accelerated?

    Has PCGS addressed this subject recently?
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    MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: phantom1701



    Has PCGS addressed this subject recently?




    Yes, by grading more of them.

    See: edynamicmarketing

    See: kpl



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    Originally posted by: mach1ne
    Originally posted by: phantom1701

    Has PCGS addressed this subject recently?


    Yes, by grading more of them.
    See: edynamicmarketing
    See: kpl



    Well, yeah, but meant more in a formal manner. Like a Q&A at one of the various shows.

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