1786 4 Escudos Colombia — Collectors Universe https://forums.collectors.com/ Fri, 01 May 2026 15:27:57 +0000 en 1786 4 Escudos Colombia — Collectors Universe Is it an AU58 or an MS63+, and how would you value it? https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1120244/is-it-an-au58-or-an-ms63-and-how-would-you-value-it Fri, 23 Jan 2026 23:46:16 +0000 World & Ancient Coins Forum JohnnyCache 1120244@/discussions  
These images are of the same coin. 
While the value of gold has increased between the time of the two auctions I feel its not relative to the hammer price at the close of either auction.

How this coin was valued by the bidders was clearly based on the respective grades of each holder.
I feel the images of the coin at both auction houses were of equal quality and adequate to assess the coin.
 

 
Was it under graded? Is it now over graded?
In my assessment, I am more in line with PCGS in seeing it more as an AU58.
However, I've never seen it in hand and therefore its only reasonable and understandable that, in hand, perhaps I'd agree that it has a shot at AU58+ or perhaps even MS62, but as it stands with what the images show AU58 is not out of line IMO.
 

I would love to hear peoples thoughts on this coin, how do you grade it and what are your thoughts on what it brought for the final hammer price in either one or both of the auctions.
 



  




 

Please post some thoughts, I'm going to be hunkered down for several days due to weather and want something to discuss.

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