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Jefferson D over horizontal D ghost?

Have any of the other Jefferson variety hunters noticed that sometimes there seems to be a trace of the underlying mint mark. Case in point is the picture below of a 42 D Jefferson nickel. It looks like it might be the right one, but it almost appears that it someone at the mint may have tried to remove the mistake from the die, then minted some more? Am I crazy? Can anyone make the picture larger? The image is larger in the file I have saved, but when I load it to photoshop it reduces it (even after I change the size).


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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...need a tighter shot. image
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...i re-read your thread. i too can't manipulate sizing of the pics. image
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Often times with a close examination of the mint mark area, you will notice "ghost" indications of a previous mint mark. I have been told that there were repairs done to incorrectly punched mint marks on dies, but often times they are very noticeable (mechanical in nature) and not ghost like. What we usually see I believe, are eroded dies that leave behind these ghostly images of mint marks.

    I have seen Jefferson MM in depressions, so that means that the MM area was actually raised on the die...explain that?
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    though the picture is fuzzy it looks like the underlying horizontal "D" is visible.
  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭✭
    Stephunter,

    Hope you are able to get a hold of someone who could catch a better close-up? This would be great to see. Maybe there is a "strong" and "weak" D / Horizontal D? This would be quite interesting.

    Dowgie
  • It looks right. Maybe just a late die state...

    I once had a 46 D/lazyD that PCGS did not label. ANACS however did recognize it.
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    stephunter, Do you see any sign of the horizontal d inside the loop of the primary d? The pic shows the blurb on the d a lot lower than one I picked up
    at the Tenn. State show two weeks ago. A well circulated example, it has a strong underlying horiz. d. The horiz. d is up near the upper serif of the primary d. I'll try a get a pic to post in a little bit. Shag.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeez, what a pain in the a$$ to image, upload to photo bucket, and then transfer to the forums. I digress. Attached are the images of the 42-d/d. Note the location
    of the horizontal underlying d in relation to the primary image. Shag

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a coin that shows something unusual with the mm but can't remember if it was a 42-D or 46-D. I'll need to check.


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