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Gold coins vs. gold bars

levinlllevinll Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
Why are the premiums higher on coins vs. bars. Is it strictly a matter of supply vs. demand with the coins that makes these cost more (from the bullion dealers) ?

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bars are a hedge against inflation. Coins are collected by date or series. That's all I can think that separates the two, besides shape and size, which ultimately matter.
  • cswcsw Posts: 432
    Easy.
    Circles good. Rectangles bad.
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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭
    Coins are harder to counterfeit.
    Coins have added numismatic value
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask this question on the Precious Metals Forum and you"ll probably get a lot of good responses. Some of those guys collect bars of various designs and manufacturers and are quite knowledgeable on this subject.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coins are more liquid and easier to sell. A gold bar might need to be tested before some one will buy it. All one has to do with a coin is be able to tell than it's genuine, and you are all set to sell it.

    If I wanted a big position in gold, I'd rate coins WAY AHEAD of gold bars.

    Plus to a collector coins are FAR MORE interesting.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe (I could be wrong - however that would be unusual image ) that coins are more readily liquidated than bar stock. Cheers, RickO
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    The name brand bars are selling quite high these days.
    Avid collector of GSA's.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For years it was illegal to trade in gold bars in the United States, but legal to trade in U.S. $20's or Mexican 50 Pesos or Austrian 100 Coronas or other bullion coins. Thus, we have a cultural disposition towards coins rather than bars. This affects the supply/demand factor in this country.

    Other countries did not have a gold ban.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fabrication costs are higher for coins. Also, the smaller the item the higher the percentage premium. The other factor is demand.

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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    For classic gold coins, the big telemarketing firms have driven much of the demand. Premiums used to be much lower on the old gold coins before there was a gold sponsor on every major talk radio show. Some of the telemarketing customers are paying 2x to 4x what collectors buying from more reputable dealers are paying.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer the coins but then again just to cover inflation and all the other stuff, I'd say maybe both. It dont hurt image
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Counterfeiting comes with higher penalties than fraud.
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  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    Gold coins can be liquidated at virtually any pawn shop, coin shop or even many jewelry stores.

    They are more flexible in terms of size and US Eagles are guaranteed by the US Government (okay, so is Social Security and we know where that's going) and less likely to be fraudulent.

    Gold coins are NEVER worth less than the price of gold but gold coins are often worth much more.

    Gold bars don't fit in PCGS holders. image
  • slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    There is virtually no difference in price between bullion gold coins and bullion gold bars. Last I checked, GAEs were selling for $1162, Pandas for $1147, and swiss bars for $1137. $15-$25 is not much of a difference in that amount.

    Are you referring to Proofs or perhaps Collectible gold like Saints compared to bars? Can you site an example?
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  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    I think most who have collected and/or sold US Eagles over the last 10 or more years would agree that properly marketed, coins out price bars.

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