This pic is terrible and does not show the true color. It is now in an ngc holder of course at ms-67. If you look at the pic of the franklin below, the blue you see on it is exactly the same blue on the washington and where its dark its the same orange as the frankie to.
It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date.
<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date. >>
I dont have the coin in hand yet to double check what you are seeing but when i did look it over i had it myself at a 67 and dont remember seeing that mark on the nostril. The lighting that was used was terrible when i took that pic and as mentioned earlier the pic does not represent what it looks like in hand at all.
<< <i><< so im guessing $400 is a fair asking price then? >>
Am I to understand that the coin in question is in an un-attributed NGC 67 holder?
I hear they've recently begun attributing the Type B at NGC.
It's been my personal experience that NOT ALL NGC 67 cross successfully to PCGS 67 -
As such, more than likely (%-wise) this would go PCGS 66, shot 67.
Bearing this in mind & that the 57 is consensus "most common date" ....
$400 is a stretch. Send it to PCGS for crossover if you truly think it will go 67.
As is you're more likely to get a buy for $200- $250, tops .... cause people are thinking MS 66 (PCGS)
JMHO, FWIW - Good Luck! >>
I didnt get it attributed cause i thought ngc wasnt doing it yet Im sure it would cross but have no place for it in my collection so dont wanna sink any cash into it, just wanna move it along.
<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date. >>
MS67 does not equal free of marks. That being said, if the coin was able to pass muster as an PCGS MS67, it would likely have already been done.
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<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date. >>
MS67 does not equal free of marks. That being said, if the coin was able to pass muster as an PCGS MS67, it would likely have already been done. >>
The coin is actually from an original mint set i bought a few weeks back and is its first time being slabbed This wasnt a crack out coin or anything.
The one on Teletrade that sold on March 7th went for $400 plus the buyers premium which comes to $460. I am not sure if this is astronomical or not but I would say that a nice looking specimen in a PCGS holder should probably go for at least $300 if not close to $400. I think there are fewer than 10 graded by PCGS in MS67. There are many in 65 and 66, and to get your money back it's got to grade a minimum of 66. Anything lower and the money you get for it will be iffy.
Your best bet is to have PCGS grade it. They seem to be a little tougher than NGC on Washingtons, and PCGS graded Washingtons seem to get more money than the ones that are graded ATS.
With those 'digs' on the obverse, which look similar to reeding marks, but I don't think they are reeding marks (which I have circled with an unsteady hand), I don't think there's any way our hosts will give this a 67. Also, whats going on at the 'T' in 'Quarter'???? Is that a tad of PVC, or just some gunk?? It IS a beauty of a coin, though. I am not a big fan of toning, but that blue is fantastic!
That depression on the nose almost looks like a cud....with those marks I circled, so near the nose, could this be the 'sneezing' Type B?
<< <i>With those 'digs' on the obverse, which look similar to reeding marks, but I don't think they are reeding marks (which I have circled with an unsteady hand), I don't think there's any way our hosts will give this a 67. Also, whats going on at the 'T' in 'Quarter'???? Is that a tad of PVC, or just some gunk?? It IS a beauty of a coin, though. I am not a big fan of toning, but that blue is fantastic!
That depression on the nose almost looks like a cud....with those marks I circled, so near the nose, could this be the 'sneezing' Type B?
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The mark on the nose is most likely a cud. That mark you see near the T is actually the color of the metal (untoned) and looks that way do to the lighting. The coin does have a few die breaks here and there. When i get it in hand ill take way better pics and will reinspect it.
NGC favors toning on Washington's. Nearly EVERY MS66 or MS67 NGC Washington exhibits heavy toning.
PCGS, on the other hand, understands that some toning can distract the eye from unfavorable contact marks.
MS66 on a cross if even that IMO.
As for what it would sell for, thats totally up to the bidders but since its unattributed and a relatively common Type B, I would not expect big bucks.
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PCGS, on the other hand, understands that some toning can distract the eye from unfavorable contact marks.
MS66 on a cross if even that IMO.
As for what it would sell for, thats totally up to the bidders but since its unattributed and a relatively common Type B, I would not expect big bucks.
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<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date.
I dont have the coin in hand yet to double check what you are seeing but when i did look it over i had it myself at a 67 and dont remember seeing that mark on the nostril. The lighting that was used was terrible when i took that pic and as mentioned earlier the pic does not represent what it looks like in hand at all.
I seen one go for Around $400 on Teletrade about a week ago. Here's mine.
<< <i>I seen one go for Around $400 on Teletrade about a week ago. Here's mine.
That coin is very nice!
Am I to understand that the coin in question is in an un-attributed NGC 67 holder?
I hear they've recently begun attributing the Type B at NGC.
It's been my personal experience that NOT ALL NGC 67 cross successfully to PCGS 67 -
As such, more than likely (%-wise) this would go PCGS 66, shot 67.
Bearing this in mind & that the 57 is consensus "most common date" ....
$400 is a stretch. Send it to PCGS for crossover if you truly think it will go 67.
As is you're more likely to get a buy for $200- $250, tops .... cause people are thinking MS 66 (PCGS)
JMHO, FWIW - Good Luck!
<< <i><< so im guessing $400 is a fair asking price then? >>
Am I to understand that the coin in question is in an un-attributed NGC 67 holder?
I hear they've recently begun attributing the Type B at NGC.
It's been my personal experience that NOT ALL NGC 67 cross successfully to PCGS 67 -
As such, more than likely (%-wise) this would go PCGS 66, shot 67.
Bearing this in mind & that the 57 is consensus "most common date" ....
$400 is a stretch. Send it to PCGS for crossover if you truly think it will go 67.
As is you're more likely to get a buy for $200- $250, tops .... cause people are thinking MS 66 (PCGS)
JMHO, FWIW - Good Luck! >>
I didnt get it attributed cause i thought ngc wasnt doing it yet
<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date. >>
MS67 does not equal free of marks. That being said, if the coin was able to pass muster as an PCGS MS67, it would likely have already been done.
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<< <i>It may not be totally fair to judge a coin based on internet images, as many here preach, but I honestly do not see that quarter as being a legit MS-67. Look at the depression on Washington's nose just above the nostril. I'm also seeing contact marks on the base of Washington's neck above and to the right of the date. >>
MS67 does not equal free of marks. That being said, if the coin was able to pass muster as an PCGS MS67, it would likely have already been done. >>
The coin is actually from an original mint set i bought a few weeks back and is its first time being slabbed
Your best bet is to have PCGS grade it. They seem to be a little tougher than NGC on Washingtons, and PCGS graded Washingtons seem to get more money than the ones that are graded ATS.
That depression on the nose almost looks like a cud....with those marks I circled, so near the nose, could this be the 'sneezing' Type B?
<< <i>With those 'digs' on the obverse, which look similar to reeding marks, but I don't think they are reeding marks (which I have circled with an unsteady hand), I don't think there's any way our hosts will give this a 67. Also, whats going on at the 'T' in 'Quarter'???? Is that a tad of PVC, or just some gunk?? It IS a beauty of a coin, though. I am not a big fan of toning, but that blue is fantastic!
That depression on the nose almost looks like a cud....with those marks I circled, so near the nose, could this be the 'sneezing' Type B?
The mark on the nose is most likely a cud. That mark you see near the T is actually the color of the metal (untoned) and looks that way do to the lighting. The coin does have a few die breaks here and there. When i get it in hand ill take way better pics and will reinspect it.
That was a sweet piece. If so, we can use it for comparative purposes.
From what was expressed to me, it was literally stolen from this certain mutual acquaintance.
But, of course - I'm "not sure"!
I'll check my albums.
Thanks.
PCGS, on the other hand, understands that some toning can distract the eye from unfavorable contact marks.
MS66 on a cross if even that IMO.
As for what it would sell for, thats totally up to the bidders but since its unattributed and a relatively common Type B, I would not expect big bucks.
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MS66 on a cross if even that IMO.
As for what it would sell for, thats totally up to the bidders but since its unattributed and a relatively common Type B, I would not expect big bucks.
I agree with you 100%, Lee.