Now this is original toning!!
DoubleEagle59
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I've always said 80% of the brilliant white coins in the marketplace prior to 1960, have most likely been dipped before.
Regardless of the percentage, as I may be a little too high on my estimate, I just wanted to show you a coin currently on Ebay that shows original toning.
We don't see many coins like this.
Yet, if you can imagine a world where 'coin dip' was never invented, a coin like this would take up about 80% of the marketplace, not the other way around.
original toning
Regardless of the percentage, as I may be a little too high on my estimate, I just wanted to show you a coin currently on Ebay that shows original toning.
We don't see many coins like this.
Yet, if you can imagine a world where 'coin dip' was never invented, a coin like this would take up about 80% of the marketplace, not the other way around.
original toning
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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<< <i>Looks lusterless and dull. >>
<< <i>Looks lusterless and dull. >>
Good grief, what a sad looking coin.
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<< <i>Looks lusterless and dull. >>
Good grief, what a sad looking coin. >>
And a good example of "original" often not equating with "desirable".
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<< <i>Looks lusterless and dull. >>
Good grief, what a sad looking coin. >>
And a good example of "original" often not equating with "desirable". >>
I totally agree.
My point with this thread was not to debate 'original' with 'beautiful',
but rather, to point out that most brilliant whites coins are dipped, and those to suggest they aren't, IMHO, are wrong.
perhaps dipping became popular was for this very reason, that true original toning, 9 times out of 10 may not look that appealling.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
Take An original bags of Morgan and Peace dollars. Most of the coins fresh out of the bag are white. Same with original banked wrapped rolls. The two end roll coins will be toned on one side, the other side stark white. All the other coins in the roll will be white. Now the reeded edges may be toned, but the obverse and reverse will be white.
<< <i>That coin looks perfect for exploring the boundary between "original toning" and "environmental damage." >>
My thought exactly...Donato
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On a different point however, is the statement that 80% of the white coins prior to 1960 have had a dip. In my opinion this is far too high an estimate to make as a general statement of US coinage. The reasons being primarily that millions of US Treasury stored Morgan dollars emerged from bags in the 1960s through 1980s only to be placed into collections and a very high percentage of those coins were white. Additionally, roll collecting was very popular through the 1950s and up to the early 1960s in the US and even though roll collectors purchased more nickel and cent rolls than silver rolls, they still hoarded a substantial number of bankwrapped rolls of Roosevelt dimes with a lesser quantity of Washington quarters. Therefore, there are many legitimately untoned, white silver US coins from before 1960.
I can agree with the idea that the vast majority of regular issue US silver coins from the Barber series and earlier should not be white or untoned. Regardless of being MS, PR or circulated these pieces should have some sort of change in appearance.
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Yet, if you can imagine a world where 'coin dip' was never invented, a coin like this would take up about 80% of the marketplace, not the other way around.
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Maybe a lot more of the 19th century coins would look more like that, but a lot of the 20th century pieces, probably the vast majority, would still be white. Coins like this were saved by the roll, most of the coins within a roll usually stay white.