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FB, FBL, FH designation qualifications

jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭
Where can I go to find PCGS' rules regarding these strike qualities?
Thank you,
Jim

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  • Their glossary?
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, Kurt, I tried that first but here's what you get:



    << <i>FB----Short for Full Bands
    FBL---Short for Full Bell Lines
    FH---Short for Full Head >>



    That doesn't quite cut it. I would like to know exactly what their parameters are for designating any of the coins that have these characteristics.
    Thank you,
    Jim

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    PCGS's Official Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection. Pages 70 through 74.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, Lee, I have the book, but never thought to look there. I appreciate it.
    Jim

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks, Lee, I have the book, but never thought to look there. I appreciate it.
    Jim >>



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    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Jim, I looked through my files and I thought I got this from their glossary (but I guess not...so, sorry):

    FULL BANDS
    Term applied to Mercury (Winged Liberty Head) dimes when the central band is fully separated (FB). There can be no disturbance of the separation. Also applicable to Roosevelt dimes that display full separation in both the upper and lower pair of crossbands on the torch.

    FULL BELL LINES
    Term applied to Franklin half dollars when the lower sets of bell lines are complete (FBL). Very slight disturbance of several lines is acceptable.

    FULL HEAD
    Term applied to Standing Liberty quarters when the helmet of the head has full detail (FH). Both Type 1 and 2 coins are so designated but the criteria is different for both.

    FULL STEPS
    Term applied to a Jefferson five-cent example when at least 5 steps of Monticello are present.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    FH on the type II Standing Liberty Quarter, must have the following characteristics:

    1. An ear hole. On some years it is a slash

    2. Three leaves showing on the hair( clear down to the connecting points except some early and S mints)

    3.A distinct separation between the hair line and the temple , cheekbone and throat.


    Their are almost FH that are called 90 - 95% FH. Be careful of these
    as the value, while more then non FH are a long way from full FH
    values.

    There are three categories of FH according to Cline:

    Weak FH - minimum FH everything is there but sort of flat and mushy and may not show
    clearly the leaves connected to their base..

    Sharp FH - Everything is there including a clear separation between cheek and jaw. There may be slight
    softness or flatness on leaves.Full rivets may not all be strong These example deserve full FH Price

    Ultimate FH - These are found only on a few specimens on a few extraordinary years. All characteristics
    are sharp and fully visible with no glass. the leaves are fully three dimensional.The face has a fully chiseled
    appearance from forehead to cheek to jaw.Usually all of the rivets on the shield are strong and the inner shield
    is fully visible. The price on these coins are usually multiples of FH price and are extremely rare.


    Type I Quarters



    1916, is a special case, and a full head is weak because the design was different, especially in the head ares

    1917, P,S @ D are almost always with FH. The D @ S are somewhat soft and may be a little mushy, especially the S mint.





    Liberty Head or Mercury dimes FULL SPLIT BANDS (FSB)

    Full Split Bands refer to the clear separation of the upper lower as well as mid sets of bands. There can be no break in this
    separation to be awarded this designation.I would not pay Full SFB price unless all three sets of bands show clear, sharp
    separations.




    Franklin Half Dollars Full Lines

    There is a difference in grading between PCGS and NGC. While I do not collect this series, my recollection
    is as follows:

    PCGS The lines on the lowest set of lines nearest the bell must be separate and unbroken. There is some question
    as to how mushy these lines can be to receive the FL designation.

    NGC As I remember, they require both sets of lines to be separate and unbroken. The lower set near the bell as well
    as the upper set near the bell crown.
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  • Dont drink the designation Kool-aide.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Been drinking it for years. That is why I take so many long naps.image
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