A blind Poll question about the "Announcement" we await.

keets · March 17, 2010 3:48AM

No need to post and reveal your true feelings if you don't want to.

Al H.

RYK · March 17, 2010 4:12AM

I do not see how PCGS could possibly "require" me to do anything. Even so, my perception is unlikely to change.

(I am building a "hatch", in preparation for the momentous event. Think "Lost".

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keets · March 17, 2010 4:23AM

I do not see how PCGS could possibly "require" me to do anything

your reply is precisely why i added or affects your collection in an adverse way due to subsequent Market perceptions resulting from changes to the Poll, a probable reality although nothing leads me to believe that to be the case. an example might be the addition of certain designations after many, many coins have been slabbed without them.

Coinosaurus · March 17, 2010 4:28AM

Well, one thing is for sure. PCGS believes that, whatever the changes are, they will be good for their business. Right there I am feeling a very strong incentive to make reholders part of the deal, whatever it is.

OPA · March 17, 2010 4:39AM

As a Modern Coin and bullion connoisseur, there are no other option other then PCGS. Submit to Across the Street? Never.

RedHerring · March 17, 2010 5:13AM

Depends on how nice the new holders and scans are...........

Ahrensdad · March 17, 2010 5:20AM

I would only stop being loyal to PCGS if they did something to significantly harm their reputation in the marketplace. They are the undisputed market leader. Look at the value of their product vrs the identical by their competitors. This is why I am loyal. That, and these forums which they have graciously provided free of charge.

All the best,
Andrew

lkeigwin · March 17, 2010 5:33AM

I really, really, really don't want expose my slabbed coins to more pollutants and handling.

If there is a significant advantage I could be persuaded. But I sure hope some significant discount is given for re-holdering those coins already in PCGS holders.
Lance.

telephoto1 · March 17, 2010 5:42AM

Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another.

Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion.

jhdfla · March 17, 2010 5:49AM

<< Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another.

Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion. >>

Yup...

Justacommeman · March 17, 2010 5:57AM

I had a dream that my fish from the market was wrapped in an issue of CoinFacts.

Wonder what it means? MJ

notwilight · March 17, 2010 5:58AM

In my opinion, it will likely involve something that will result in a lot of resubmissions for reholdering or regrading (two different subjects).

In either case, I don't see how they can make it "required" but they might make it cost effective for you to sell. For example, if they have a new holder that is 100% counterfeitproof these will probably demand a premium on the open market.

So it depends on how much advantage it is and what it is whether I do it. I think OGHs and perhaps OBH's of the future may be desirable for "originality" and tradition so long as they are deemed non-fake. --jerry

smokincoin · March 17, 2010 6:03AM

<< Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another.

Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion. >>

with this entire post. I bet it's gonna cost!

GRANDAM · March 17, 2010 6:08AM

"If the "Announcement" in some way requires you to reholder parts of your collection or affects your collection in an adverse way due to subsequent Market perceptions resulting from changes will you still be a loyal PCGS customer/club member??"

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I have been a loyal PCGS customer since 1986. At that time I took my IKE's to SilverTowne and had them submitted.

While I realize PCGS has not made the announcement of what "The Big One" is with all the guesses being thrown out I just hope that they don't do something stupid and change the way they are perceived in the industry,

Some of the guesses being thrown out are the STUPIDIST things I have ever heard of and and hope they don't ever see the light of day.

GrandAm

RYK · March 17, 2010 6:11AM

<< Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another.

Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion. >>

I also expect this to be a revenue driver for PCGS, and I do not mind paying money, so long as I feel that I am getting value.

Resubmitting my entire collection to get the new whatchamacallit? Not gonna happen. Too much work involved. They would have to pay ME to do it.

TigerGirl1398 · March 17, 2010 6:19AM

<< Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another.

Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion. >>

I have to agree, wholeheartedly!!

notwilight · March 17, 2010 6:24AM

<< 

<< Change done merely for the sake of change or for the sake of the improvement of the bottom line is one thing; change done for the betterment of the hobby is another. Too much hype IMO; I have the sinking feeling that the "big one" a) won't be all that big and b) will end up costing collectors and dealers more money in some fashion. >>

I also expect this to be a revenue driver for PCGS, and I do not mind paying money, so long as I feel that I am getting value. Resubmitting my entire collection to get the new whatchamacallit? Not gonna happen. Too much work involved. They would have to pay ME to do it. >>

If the new whathamacallit was good enough it would happen. For this to be a big moneymaker PCGS has to add adequate value to cause us to want to resubmit. Ever see the toothless grin of a kid trying to sell you an overpriced candybar at your door and want to just say, "Hey kid, bring me something I want, need or find to be a good deal. you won't always be cute and someday the hard reality will set in and you just as well get a head start now." I don't do that but my kids have already been exposed to the concept. --jerry

Longacre · March 17, 2010 7:02AM

I will simply do what I'm told.

Justacommeman · March 17, 2010 7:09AM

<< I will simply do what I'm told. >>

I'm giving your comment a sticker. MJ

BigE · March 17, 2010 7:12AM

<< I will simply do what I'm told. >>

I am going to do whatever Longacre does, so he can do all the thinking for me

-----------BigE

ocon4008 · March 17, 2010 7:21AM

I am a stockholder; so what is good for PCGS is good for me. If I reholder all of my coins I will get a percentage of fees back in dividends. If everyone else reholders their coins I will get get a percentage of thier fees as well.

BigE · March 17, 2010 7:27AM

Likewise, I get a percentage of that beer you are drinking-------------BigE

MidLifeCrisis · March 17, 2010 7:37AM

I agree with everything RYK has posted in this thread...except the "Lost" hatch thingy.

telephoto1 · March 17, 2010 7:39AM

<< I am a stockholder; so what is good for PCGS is good for me. If I reholder all of my coins I will get a percentage of fees back in dividends. If everyone else reholders their coins I will get get a percentage of thier fees as well.

>>

Hey, I never considered the possibility that this was a ploy to sell more stock in CU...quick, everyone go call your brokers before the big one hits...

johnny9434 · March 17, 2010 7:56AM

I wouldnt get my pcgs coins reholdered ( what ever word goes in there ). i might certainly curtail my coin buying thou

ricko · March 17, 2010 8:18AM

Pass the popcorn.... this is better than watching television any day. Whatever is announced, the world will continue turning, the sun will rise in the east and set in the west. People will be born and die. And the little sector of humanity that collects coins will continue with their almost daily tempests in teapots. Get a life people. Cheers, RickO

TomB · March 17, 2010 8:28AM

Questions containing an "or" generally do not produce highly informative results when a simple answer is required since some folks will preferentially respond to the first half of the question while others will preferentially respond to the second half of the question.

keets · March 17, 2010 10:37PM

Questions containing an "or" generally do not produce highly informative results when a simple answer is required

actually, no posted answer was requested. the "simple" answer pertains to either option. simple, really.........................

RYK · March 17, 2010 10:40PM

<< Questions containing an "or" generally do not produce highly informative results when a simple answer is required

actually, no posted answer was requested. the "simple" answer pertains to either option. simple, really......................... >>

Actually, it is a run-on sentence requiring a yes or no answer to two mutually exclusive and vague outcomes. I hereby award you the Goldbully Award for Poll Construction.

keets · March 17, 2010 10:42PM

and i'd like to know when the forum started to have comprehension problems??

Walmann · March 17, 2010 11:14PM

Is this to suggest the remaining doily holdered coins may be endangered?

OKbustchaser · March 17, 2010 11:38PM

I'm not a

<< loyal PCGS customer/club member >>

now so I have no viable answer to the poll.

mozin · March 18, 2010 7:17AM

Think of the shipping charges, if we need to reholder our collection. USPS has an insurance max of $25K per package, so shipping would run about $140 round trip. Multiply that by the number of packages, comes to a lot of money. Oh, I forgot the PCGS fees.

A blind Poll question about the "Announcement" we await.

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