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Canadian money to become plastic, coins will be steel next year - Are we next??

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Mar 5, 2010 by - Andrew Moran

The Canadian federal government announced in its budget that paper Canadian currency will become plastic and have new security features next year. Its $2 and $1 coins will also receive new changes.
Ottawa, Canada - On Thursday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s minority Conservative government announced in its budget that its paper currency will go plastic by late next year, according to the Globe and Mail. The plastic notes will also contain high security features to ensure that the $10 and $20 bills last longer.
The Bank of Canada will replace the nation’s cotton-paper bank notes with a tough polymer that are meant to last two to three times longer. The money will be waterproof as well, so if you wash your money in the laundry then it won’t be a big deal, reports The Canadian Press. However, the Bank of Canada has not revealed the details on the specific technology.
This latest measure is designed to avoid counterfeiting, which the Royal Canadian Mounted Police say there were more than 141,000 counterfeited bills found worth $3.3 million in 2007, reports the United Press International.
Australia was the first nation to use plastic money and a spokesperson for the Bank of Canada, Julie Girard, believes it’s a very good investment on the part of the federal government.
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty also announced that the nation’s $2 and $1 coins will be replaced with steel instead of the predominantly nickel-based.

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    .......YIKES!!!image
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was able to handle some of the new mexican bills. They appear to be made of plastic too. Seemed like good quality and was pretty cool.
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a great idea.

    Saves money, deters counterfeiters and is more durable.

    Its a win-win situation.

    Leave it to Canada & Australia to have the foresight to do this ahead of the US.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I recall correctly, New Zealand or a nation near there started using polymer currency a few years ago.
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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    I'm for it, the plastic bills are much nicer to handle and seem to hold up very well.
  • Wonder how it holds up to heat? Stacks of cotton bills can survive some fires as long as it is not directly exposed to flames (sometimes even if scorched a bit). Most plastics don't do well even in sub 200 degree temps. So it might survive the wash, but what about the dryer? Will they laminate to each other? Should be interesting.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,057 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So it might survive the wash, but what about the dryer? Will they laminate to each other? Should be interesting. >>



    I guess plastic bills would discourage money laundering.image

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  • DCAMDCAM Posts: 302 ✭✭✭
    Sounds kinda like the material used for hunting and fishing licenses.
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    << <i>So it might survive the wash, but what about the dryer? Will they laminate to each other? Should be interesting. >>



    I guess plastic bills would discourage money laundering.image >>




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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    As long as they get the money smell right, then they can make it out of what ever they want. I dont want my money to smell like plastic. I want it to smell like money. There is no subing for the smell of money.

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  • SLQSLQ Posts: 311 ✭✭
    The U.S. Government will unveil a new $100 Note on April 21. No mention of plastic though.


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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    I wonder what the environmental impact will be. Must we produce yet more plastic?

    I have seen the NZ bills, maybe 15 years ago or so. They are cool looking.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,746 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder what the environmental impact will be. Must we produce yet more plastic? >>



    Didn't know what to think until I read this, now I am all for it.
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,402 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I recall correctly, New Zealand or a nation near there started using polymer currency a few years ago. >>



    Yes, I've seen some of those polymer bills.

    If you didn't know they were plastic, you would still think they were some kind of paper.

    A lot thinner than our bills too!
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,920 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So it might survive the wash, but what about the dryer? Will they laminate to each other? Should be interesting. >>



    I guess plastic bills would discourage money laundering.image >>




    I read they launder quite well.

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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I wonder what the environmental impact will be. Must we produce yet more plastic? >>



    Didn't know what to think until I read this, now I am all for it. >>



    Come over here and say that. image

    But seriously, why produce more plastic stuff. Don't we have enough already?
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But seriously, why produce more plastic stuff. Don't we have enough already? >>

    Most of the "excitable left" are concerned with waste and disposal of this incredibly useful material. I doubt we'll see old plastic bills in landfill and sewer drains, or choking shoreline wildlife.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,057 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>So it might survive the wash, but what about the dryer? Will they laminate to each other? Should be interesting. >>



    I guess plastic bills would discourage money laundering.image >>



    I read they launder quite well. >>



    Just use the low heat setting on the washer and drier.image

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ....perhaps it will become common to be asked at the bank after cashing a check to say "will that be plastic or metal?" image
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,109 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>....perhaps it will become common to be asked at the bank after cashing a check to say "will that be plastic or metal?" image >>



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    Ottawa, Ontario — As part of the Government of Canada’s budget announcement to modernize Canada’s currency , the Royal Canadian Mint will change the composition of one-dollar and two-dollar coins, using the Corporation’s cost-effective patented multi-ply plated steel technology.

    The current composition for the one-dollar coin is bronze plated nickel, while the current composition for the two-dollar coin is, for the inner core, aluminum bronze (copper, aluminum and nickel), and for the outer ring, pure nickel. The primary new composition of both coins, to be launched at the beginning of 2011, will be multi-ply plated steel.
    The Mint is currently working collaboratively with key stakeholders to minimize the impact of this composition change on their day-to-day operations. The new coins will bear the same look and feel as the current bronze and nickel one-dollar and two-dollar coins.

    The Mint’s multi-ply plated steel technology is a unique electroplating process which deposits thin, alternating layers of nickel and copper over a steel core, or "blank", to produce the best quality, most economical nickel and copper based circulation coins available.

    Canada’s one-cent, five-cent, 10-cent, 25-cent and 50-cent circulation coins have been produced with this technology since 2000. Multi-ply plated steel coins are proudly produced by the skilled technicians of the Mint’s Winnipeg facility where all circulation coins, for Canada and countries from around the world, are produced.

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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RCM claims they are still profitably making the 1 cent coins, using the steel blanks with copper plating.
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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I traveled to Australia several times in the mid 90's on business. They had introduced plastic notes back then - yes, 15 years ago. They are thin plastic, tough as nails and ought to last a long time compared to denim/paper. This note was in my drawer so I took a quick snapshot - it is smaller than our notes at 5 1/2 x 2 1/2 inches. The windmill on the lower left in the first photo is actually a clear section of the plastic - you are seeing the white card I used as a background. I am not familiar with all the anti-counterfeit technology in these notes, but the background of the portraits is in micro printing. Overall we could probably learn alot from the Aussies about currency.

    Edited to add: The different denominations of notes are the same height, but different lengths to aid the visually impaired. The $10 note is about 1/4" wider than the $5 note I have.
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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>But seriously, why produce more plastic stuff. Don't we have enough already? >>

    Most of the "excitable left" are concerned with waste and disposal of this incredibly useful material. I doubt we'll see old plastic bills in landfill and sewer drains, or choking shoreline wildlife.
    Lance. >>



    Hey, even the not so excitable left are concerned about it. You are right that not so many people will be wanting to through this plastic away, at least not literally. I wonder if it can be recycled. Still, I wonder if there was any sort of EIS. Just curious.
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are made of polypropylene so they can be recycled.

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  • The steel coins don't bode well for future metal detection hobbiests. " Darn, found another rusted disk". It should lower costs for the Chinese counterfeiters though! image
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The U.S. Government will unveil a new $100 Note on April 21. No mention of plastic though.


    http://www.newmoney.gov/newmoney/ >>



    I recall years ago that the U.S. government stated they wouldn't be using polymer for banknotes because polymer wouldn't pass one of the endurance tests that the U.S. banknote paper is subjected to before it gets approved for use.

    As others have stated already, a few countries already use polymer for banknotes. They last longer and they're much more difficult to counterfeit.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,322 ✭✭✭✭
    i can see it now, i'll be searching bank rolls and get excited when i find ----------- CLAD!!

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,044 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i can see it now, i'll be searching bank rolls and get excited when i find ----------- CLAD!! >>



    Just like when I am searching Lincoln cents and find ----------- COPPER!!image
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even Mexico has gotten on the polymer bandwagon:

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    Polymer permits much more colourful and fascinating imagery than paper.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sure do miss silver and gold. image Cheers, RickO
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I sure do miss silver and gold. image Cheers, RickO >>



    ....WOW!!!! me TOO!!image
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  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>....perhaps it will become common to be asked at the bank after cashing a check to say "will that be plastic or metal?" image >>


    I was thinking along those same lines...as when you go grocery shopping and it's time to bag it..."Will that be paper or plastic."?!!?!?...
    ......Larry........image
  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    If they eventually end up making the coins out of plastic, instead of steel or some other alloy, the advice "buy the coin not the plastic" will have to evolve.

    Buy the plastic not the plastic ?
  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486


    << <i>I wonder what the environmental impact will be. Must we produce yet more plastic?

    With the amount of plastic produced in the world each year, I can't imagine plastic money even making a blip on the scale.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ....has anyone cleared this with gore??image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,920 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If they eventually end up making the coins out of plastic, instead of steel or some other alloy, the advice "buy the coin not the plastic" will have to evolve.

    Buy the plastic not the plastic ? >>



    and will the plastic be stable over the centuries... or will we need to have special stabilizing material inside slabs??

    hmmmm.... maybe I'll use that for tomorrow's post to the "Big One" thread. image

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  • if anyone is concerned about the environmental impact this might have, just send me all your plastic bills and I'll be sure to recycle them properlyimage
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  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭✭
    Leave it to the Aussies & Canucks to be ahead of the Americans yet again!

    But who knows? Now that Teddy Kennedy is gone, and a Republican won his seat, ANYTHING is possible in Massachussetts - - maybe even dumping the sole supplier of linen for our currency!imageimageimage
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374


    << <i>....has anyone cleared this with gore??image >>


    I think even after 10,000 years it don't matter....he will be history too.....!!!!
    ......Larry........image
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why bother with anything in circulation, especially plastic. We're already a Paypal society, exchanging
    digits from one account to another. In the future your employer will add points to your chip which is implanted under
    your skin, most likely the wrist area. Every business, home, etc. will have a point of sale terminal, where you just simply swipe your wrist
    and points are deducted from your account. You could even exchange points from human to human.
    Talk about ultimate control, and no currency and coins to produce.
    Just my two cents worth of plastic image
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