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What do you collect those for? You will never get 'em all!!

COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
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Have people or dealers ever said these type of discourging words to you?
They may be correct, but what is up with all the hostility? So what if you never get them all? Is not being able to get them all a reason not to collect any?
In this hobby, I've been met with more put-downs, negitivity and skeptisism by dealers than support and encourgement. What's up with that? Are they in general just a bunch of negitive brats that arnt "getting enough" or something ? image

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  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭
    Is the goal of every single "collecting" endeavor to aquire an example of each individual piece known? Of course not!!! Whoever says "You will never get them all" just doesnt get the concept of "collecting".
  • soty27soty27 Posts: 1,956
    Just say, If it was easy to get them all what would be the point?? Its the hunt thats the fun part image
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,518 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Have people or dealers ever said these type of discourging words to you?
    They may be correct, but what is up with all the hostility? So what if you never get them all? Is not being able to get them all a reason not to collect any?
    In this hobby, I've been met with more put-downs, negitivity and skeptisism by dealers than support and encourgement. What's up with that? Are they in general just a bunch of negitive brats that arnt "getting enough" or something ? image

    Comments welcome.................image >>



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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    He meant normal people.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,518 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He meant normal people. >>



    then why bring it up on a forum of coin collectors?
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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭
    Perhaps as dealers they come across people who like to complete sets and warn them so they will not be upset when the can't complete it. If i was a new collector i would like to know this up front. Perhaps i would have worked on Washington quarters instead of seated quarters.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a dealer told me that once and he always had the same stuff in stock. we dont do business with each other.
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    I have heard that many many times.....

    "Barber Halves in VF? HA! Good Luck! Yo'll NEVER complete THAT set!"

    Hmm.. started the set at the June 09 Parsippany show, I only need a handful fo coins to complete it now image

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ....just say, yeah, i already got all the keys, it's not much of a challenge anymore, now. image
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  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806 ✭
    They may have a valid point.

    Ever try to obtain every color scheme of every coin that has been colorized?



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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems like a sneaky way for a dealer to try to steer you towards some other collecting focus - one that will allow that dealer to sell you coins that have been languishing in his inventory.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Seems like a sneaky way for a dealer to try to steer you towards some other collecting focus - one that will allow that dealer to sell you coins that have been languishing in his inventory. >>



    ....now THAT'S salesmanship! image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • Ed1840Ed1840 Posts: 355
    I have heard it a few times. But only once from a dealer. To which my reply was I'm currently working on my third set, I already have two complete.
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder how many times Eliasberg heard it?
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe you've been hanging around the wrong dealers. A perveyor of Large Cents once told me that even a partial collection can be very impresive if the individual coins in it have superior eye appeal. Leo
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those type of comments show abject ignorance of collecting as a hobby. They are standard fare in some coin shops with excess inventory and also from people who have a special interest that does not coincide with the collector being addressed. Ignore them. Cheers, RickO
  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What he really means is "I will never be able to supply you with all of those.".
    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Have people or dealers ever said these type of discourging words to you?
    They may be correct, but what is up with all the hostility? So what if you never get them all? Is not being able to get them all a reason not to collect any?
    In this hobby, I've been met with more put-downs, negitivity and skeptisism by dealers than support and encourgement. What's up with that? Are they in general just a bunch of negitive brats that arnt "getting enough" or something ? image

    Comments welcome.................image >>

    I went to a shop looking for a dansco for franklin halves with proofs. He had both in his shop but explained that I would never be able to complete the proof set.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you consider beginning a collection of anything, you should look at the list of coins, tokens or medals and see if you will be able to afford all of them or even if all of them will ever be available to you. If some pieces are beyond your range, you have to ask yourself if not having this item or those items will destroy the enjoyment you might get from collecting the set. If the answer is, “No,” then it makes sense to begin. If it is, “Yes,” then it would be time to rethink the project.

    Sometimes dealers are telling you something for your own good. For example many times I’ve seen the price of newly issued items go up to high levels only fall, sometimes like a rock, when the excitement ended. Nobody likes to end up stuck with something at a “burial price.” Sometimes a dealer’s advice should be taken in that spirit.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And sometimes when they say you'll never get them all, they're right. But trying is fun, anyway.image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>And sometimes when they say you'll never get them all, they're right. But trying is fun, anyway.image >>



    Yea, like I would like to own a Chalmers silver piece like the one in your avatar, but it has not worked out so far. I'd like to own the one with the snake and the two birds because of the political symbolism.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder how many times Eliasberg heard it? >>

    Outstanding reply!image
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wonder how many times Eliasberg heard it? >>

    Outstanding reply!image >>



    I doubt if Eliasburg heard that line very often. He had so much more money to spend than any other coin collector at that time, that any dealer who recognized him would have kissed his ring and bowed down on the floor when he came into their shop or approached their table at a show. In conversations with some of Eliasburg’s contemporizes, they described him as a “vacuum cleaner” who could out bid anyone who went up against him. Remember that items like the 1804 silver dollars were selling for $5 to $10 thousand when Eliasburg was buying most of his core collection. So $100 thousand dollars was major money in his day.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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