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Naming the nameless...Maris...the nondescript large penny...

Maris in the 1869 pamphlet Varieties of the Copper Issues of the United States Mint in the Year 1794 refers to his No. 25
as the Nondescript...

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In the description he notes the Date, legend and cap resemble No. 18. Maris No. 18 which Maris refers to as
Venus Marina is Sheldon 32 seen below...

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The Maris No. 25 is actually the same obverse as Maris No. 17 / Sheldon 28 pictured below which Maris
refers to as The Ornate...

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From the Goldberg / Holmes sale pictured is Lot 48 Maris No. 25 / Sheldon 29...

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The reverse as illustrated below has a long right ribbon and a long-tailed R in America...

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I am not sure why Maris called his No. 25 the Nondescript as the reverse it seems would have lent a
better name...oh well...back to bed.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,325 ✭✭✭✭
    i always look forward to your copper contributions on these boards.............those large copper coins from when our nation was young hold a warm spot for most of us

    Sheldon once wrote:
    ...sooner or later, experienced numismatists, after trying other numismatic disciplines, had a way of returning to large cents

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,584 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i always look forward to your copper contributions on these boards.............those large copper coins from when our nation was young hold a warm spot for most of us >>


    DITTO

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>i always look forward to your copper contributions on these boards.............those large copper coins from when our nation was young hold a warm spot for most of us >>


    DITTO

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    Me, three.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Add me to the list and thanks for another 100% awesome post RTS
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    The long-tailed R looks like the feet in your sigline. image
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  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408


    << <i>RTS, I am new in reading your posts, are these generally coins that you own? >>



    Unless otherwise noted in my threads the coins and literature I picture/reference are my own...I try to always credit coins I do
    not physically possess but of course there may be errors over the course of my posts.

    For example in the current thread the Holmes S-29 is not mine so I note its source as the Goldberg / Holmes Sale 54 whereas the
    S-32 and the S-28 are mine so no credit is given.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very informative... thanks, Cheers, RickO
  • yes, these posts are top quality and informative, even (especially) for us non-copper types.


    the title was a bit gimmicky in this case, I thought our Costa Rican contingent had changed m.o. for a minute there.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
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    Becky
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>yes, these posts are top quality and informative, even (especially) for us non-copper types.


    the title was a bit gimmicky in this case, I thought our Costa Rican contingent had changed m.o. for a minute there. >>



    I love how RTS's off topic posts are still so on topic yet so many other
    banana heads posts (never mine may I add image ) that are on topic are still off topic.
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Being a designer by trade I always look forward to RTS's posts. They are stimulating. Thanks RTS for expressing your point of view.............MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    >>


    I love how RTS's off topic posts are still so on topic yet so many other
    banana heads posts (never mine may I add image ) that are on topic are still off topic.
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    "Banana heads" ??? image It's nearly Christmas! image
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  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    Thanks RTS, another thing that has me confused, are or aren't your coins Plate Coins?

    The only way my coins will be plate coins is if mice eat the cookie crumbs off of them at night when I leave the office.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks RTS, another thing that has me confused, are or aren't your coins Plate Coins?

    The only way my coins will be plate coins is if mice eat the cookie crumbs off of them at night when I leave the office. >>


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    MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408


    << <i>those large copper coins from when our nation was young hold a warm spot for most of us Sheldon once wrote:
    ...sooner or later, experienced numismatists, after trying other numismatic disciplines, had a way of returning to large cents >>



    I was told once with respect to music that as we mature we gravitate toward Beethoven's string quartets and never leave...I find early copper casts a similar spell.

    Note: Beethoven's string quartets are Heavy Metal...don't go through life without listening.
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  • Whenever I see "Maris" in the title, I instantly think "Roger - 61 in 61!"


    Like many others, I too love seeing nice examples of early copper, and these are definitely nice. Good detailed information is always a plus.

    Thanks for helping out with my continuing education!
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I always read RTS's posts and they are usually visually brilliant, in addition to being excessively informative. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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