PCGS MS69 Morgans

commoncents123 · October 14, 2008 10:44PM

I recall a couple of years ago or so, someone had like 4 or 5 PCGS MS68 and 69 Morgans listed in the same auction for $1 million (imagine the final value fee now). Does anyone know anything about those coins or have pics of them?

kranky · October 14, 2008 11:32PM

IIRC that was a Michael Casper auction. He has an archive of coins he's sold at http://caspercoin.com/soldcoins.php if that's of any help. I can't get the search feature to work, but scrolling through a few pages there were some MS68s there.

DennisH · October 15, 2008 12:09AM

I've seen 2 or 3 PCGS MS69 Morgans over the years. None of them impressed me.

SeattleSlammer · October 15, 2008 1:09AM

I've seen two 80-S MS69s in-hand and they were both spectacular!

WTCG · October 15, 2008 1:25AM

I have seen a few MS69 Morgans. While they're spectacular to look at most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an MS68 and an MS69. That's also considering that MS68's tend to sell for a small fraction of the price that MS69's can realize in an auction.

commoncents123 · October 15, 2008 1:35AM

<< IIRC that was a Michael Casper auction. He has an archive of coins he's sold at http://caspercoin.com/soldcoins.php if that's of any help. I can't get the search feature to work, but scrolling through a few pages there were some MS68s there. >>

Whoa...those are some unreal Morgans!

Doogy · October 15, 2008 2:28AM

i got to see my first MS69 Morgan, an NGC MS69 (I think it was 1880-S?) at the Phoenix ANA show. It was mind blowing and as nearly perfect as you'd expect (with the price tag to match) for an MS69. I can't imagine that there are many like it.

COALPORTER · October 15, 2008 4:51AM

There is a PCGS MS69 81-s comming up and it's CACed too.
So, its just a shade away from MS70.

There is a NGC MS68 "star" 81-cc , that has quite a few visable flaws, and imho, is not what I'd expect. Does anyone know if it is a recent crossover from say PCGS 67 ?

In general, it amazes me how crappy morgans can be relative to other coins and still get the same MS grade. Is that what you guys see?

nicetoning42107 · October 15, 2008 9:17AM

<< There is a PCGS MS69 81-s comming up and it's CACed too.
So, its just a shade away from MS70.

There is a NGC MS68 "star" 81-cc , that has quite a few visable flaws, and imho, is not what I'd expect. Does anyone know if it is a recent crossover from say PCGS 67 ?

In general, it amazes me how crappy morgans can be relative to other coins and still get the same MS grade. Is that what you guys see? >>

That's because the Morgans are large coins. The contact marks are relative to size.

kryptonitecomics · October 15, 2008 11:50AM

<< 

<< There is a PCGS MS69 81-s comming up and it's CACed too.
So, its just a shade away from MS70.

There is a NGC MS68 "star" 81-cc , that has quite a few visable flaws, and imho, is not what I'd expect. Does anyone know if it is a recent crossover from say PCGS 67 ?

In general, it amazes me how crappy morgans can be relative to other coins and still get the same MS grade. Is that what you guys see? >>

That's because the Morgans are large coins. The contact marks are relative to size. >>

I agree with this statement and you have to consider the weight as well which makes it easy for them to get marked up......could you imagine a bag of ASE's.....they'd look like hamburger pretty quick

Sandhawk · October 15, 2008 11:56AM

Here is an 81-S in PCGS MS68

barbershopper · October 15, 2008 12:04PM

<< There is a PCGS MS69 81-s comming up and it's CACed too.
So, its just a shade away from MS70.

There is a NGC MS68 "star" 81-cc , that has quite a few visable flaws, and imho, is not what I'd expect. Does anyone know if it is a recent crossover from say PCGS 67 ?

In general, it amazes me how crappy morgans can be relative to other coins and still get the same MS grade. Is that what you guys see? >>

I agree completely! It seems like the graders expect a few bag marks on Morgans and pretend they aren't there.
JET

PCGS MS69 Morgans

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