Is this an Adams error?

Camarasa · June 22, 2007 4:40AM

I have just found a John Adams coin that looks kind of strange to me (I'm at work so I dont have my camera with me). The coin is fine on the one side, but on the John Adams side the dates are missing and so is half of the word "Adams", but not the left side or right side of "Admas" but the middle of the word as if the coin was ground down by part of the minting process after being stamped. It also appears that some of his mug is very faint (strike through) but this seems like a different issue. Someone must have noticed that there is a faint groove or scratching just between the rim and the writing that surrounds John Adams, well it appears that whatever causes this groove has taken away the date the middle portion of Adams.

Anyone have any ideas as to whether this is classed as an error?
Oh, and it's a "D" mint coin.

RYK · June 22, 2007 5:13AM

Perhaps a strike-through error? Could you post a photo here?

Camarasa · June 22, 2007 6:28AM

I'll definately post a photo when I get home tonight - I'd love to hear everyone's opinion. I also found a nice clipped Adams Dollar and you can see from the photo that I'll post that it would be very hard to fake.

Andrew289 · June 22, 2007 7:39AM

That looks like a Kugerrand to me ....ROFLMFAO

stellar · June 22, 2007 7:42AM

Ive seen the "parallel to the rim lines" on the end coins of rolls. Don't know if that's what you are refering to. Thought they were errors till I realised it was on the end of about every third roll. QC being what it should be, I believe every coin on the end of the roll should have these lines as a matter of consistancy(sp)

Randy

GrumpyEd · June 22, 2007 8:06AM

Sounds like it's damage caused by the roll crimping machine. That's why it's on the end coins.

Camarasa · June 24, 2007 8:57AM

OK here are the pictures of two different coins - sorry it took so long (Note to self: buy a macro lens).

These are of the missing date (removed after minting)...

These are of another error I found - a clipped Adams dollar:

So what do you guys think? Worth anything?

Thanks
Daniel

Cam40 · June 24, 2007 9:10AM

Thats a pretty dern cool clip.

GrumpyEd · June 24, 2007 9:18AM

The first one looks like damage from the roll crimping machine so it's nothing.

The other one looks like a nice clip. Yes it's worth something.

Neat find on the clip!

mrpaseo · June 24, 2007 9:50AM

<< <i>The first one looks like damage from the roll crimping machine so it's nothing.

The other one looks like a nice clip. Yes it's worth something.

Neat find on the clip! >>

Ditto

Camarasa · June 24, 2007 10:11AM

Thanks all so far for the feedback...

Regarding the crimping maching on the first one - it's strange though because I found it in the middle of a roll, unless it was rolled and then re-rolled (quite possible since I got it from the bank) I can't see how this could have happened. How does the edge lettering maching work? Where does it grab to rotate the coin (if it does)?

FLBuffaloHunter · June 24, 2007 10:14AM

I found some Adams dollars with a circular ring around them as well. They were in the middle of the rolls I searched so it's not from crimping on the end coins. Your first coin appears to be a struck through grease error from the die being struck with grease filled dies, causing the coin to lose detail when struck. NGC has a site with more information here. Nice finds!

Camarasa · June 24, 2007 11:15AM

Would NGC or PCGS grade it as a "clipped edge" or something similar? Would it affect the grade?

GrumpyEd · June 24, 2007 11:23AM

They probably would grade it as a clip but you need to submit it as a mint error.

The clip won't change the grade.

FLBuffaloHunter · June 24, 2007 11:25AM

<< <i>Would NGC or PCGS grade it as a "clipped edge" or something similar? Would it affect the grade? >>

Both will certify it as a clipped planchet mint error. More info on this error here. For PCGS you should send it under their 'Mint Error' service ($40/coin), for NGC you can submit it under any grading tier but if you are only sending one coin, you need to send it under the 'Early Bird' tier ($30/coin) and select 'Mint Error' as the service.

Camarasa · June 24, 2007 11:30AM

Awesome, thanks.

Is this an Adams error?

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