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A good example of why not to trust others' attributions

Link If this coin were what the label says it is, it would be an R.5 marriage... quite the score in MS63 image However, the attribution is incorrect... it is in fact an LM-6, an R.3 marriage image The mistake was probally because of some very close similarities between the Reverse dies, however, there are small things that set them apart... the biggest amoung them being the die state... if this coin was an LM-1.1, there would be a retained cud already developed... also on the Obverse die, all of the stars are close of the dentils... this alone identified the coin as LM-6, as it was the only marriage struck with that obverse die image

I almost made the mistake of assuming the attribution was correct, and pulling the trigger, but I decided to double check it to be sure, and am glad I did image
-George
42/92

Comments

  • If I had a $1 for every Peace VAM ANACS mis-attributes.......

    They're real bad on the 28-s VAM 3 and 4.... Heritage, in the last month or so, had about 11 misattributed slabs for sale.....
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the huge crack in the slab....

    If I weren't a trusting soul, who knows what I might think..... image
    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is also a good reason not to trust someone else's grade. It's an overdipped AU-53 to me. Anyone else with me here?


  • << <i>This is also a good reason not to trust someone else's grade. It's an overdipped AU-53 to me. Anyone else with me here? >>

    Impossible to determine from pictures... it does look like it might have been dipped at some point... but as to if it is actually AU, it's impossible to see without having it in hand...
    -George
    42/92
  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    The add admits the slab is cracked. It is stated that if wanted it will be reslabbed. The postage is free. It is more than likely a good AU58 or better. It is not worth anywhere near that amount of money.
    HOWEVER, that is ebay. Someone may buy it and feel happy they have the thing.
    Carl
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    George, I saw the same coin about a month ago. Got excited when I saw the label and then came back to reality when I checked the attribution against the coin. If it was an 1836 LM-1.1 in MS-63, it would be up there in the condition census for that remarriage. I don't have my census handy, but I do believe that the 1.1 is a bit scarcer than the 1.2...in my experience.

    Having viewed many of this specific seller's store items, it seems to me that you will not ever have the chance for a "choice for grade" specimen. I think he has a good eye and gets regrades on some items before listing. But that's the name of the game, isn't it?
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,736 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is also a good reason not to trust someone else's grade. It's an overdipped AU-53 to me. Anyone else with me here? >>

    That is what struck me when I looked at it too! Way too clean for a silver coin of that age.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good eye George. While I think they have good intentions I don't believe any of the TPG's attributions are what I would call reliable. I've noticed several errors in ANACS recently. This is the first NGC error I've seen but I'm sure it won't be the last.

    Bottom line: Always attribute the coin yourself.


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