Would a 1956 Jefferson proof nickel

eagle7 · February 26, 2006 11:52AM

in a PCGS PR69 CAM holder bring more money on ebay than an NGC PR69 CAM in the same date and proof. If not, why not?

DickyBetz · February 26, 2006 11:52AM

I think so.

LALASD4 · February 26, 2006 11:56AM

Twice as much, maybe.

rainbowroosie · February 26, 2006 11:57AM

yes

keets · February 26, 2006 12:02PM

yes....................next question, please.

100proof1957 · February 26, 2006 12:03PM

Yes !

I dont agree with it,but perception being what it is !

CarlWohlforth · February 26, 2006 12:04PM

Yes. I'd bid on it either way. However if you had a '56 Jeff in PCGS 68 DCAM it would be worth even more. I know a '56 Jeff in PR 68 DCAM would be huge because I sold one.

CarlWohlforth · February 26, 2006 12:05PM

For anybody who is sure 1950s Jeffs in PF 68 Cameo are just as nice and worth just as much as 1950s Jeffs in PCGS 68 Cameo please PM me as I have several...

badger · February 26, 2006 2:04PM

I have had only one of many NGC Jeff Proofs cross at grade. Count on one grade decrease and it may or may not cameo. Would need to see in hand to make a judgement. Would buy the NGC at equivalent of two grades lower sight-unseen to be worth the trouble.

Anone who wants to sell Carl's previous 1956 68Dcam, let me know.

Badger

keets · February 26, 2006 9:58PM

what Badger said.

SamByrd · February 27, 2006 2:27AM

yes, PCGS is clearly the most prefered if you look at teletrade or ebay the price is more for the PCGS

Cameohunter · February 27, 2006 11:46AM

eagle7, the 1956 PCGS PR 69 CAM examples are fetching higher prices. The last five NGC PF 69 CAMs sold on Teletrade for $300, $300, $300, $320 and $320. Perhaps 4-6 are offered each year. The last time I printed NGC's pop report that service had graded 26 in PF 69 CAM.

PCGS has graded 2 in PR 69 CAM and 28 in PR 68 CAM. Two PR 69 CAM's have sold on Teletrade in the last five years. One was sold twice for a total of three sales. The prices were $2,900, $1,850 and $1,600. The PCGS examples were perceived to be more valuable. My guess is that PCGS registry competition must be a factor.

The last I checked NGC had graded 153 proof 1956 Jeffersons as CAM with an average numerical grade of 67.7 while PCGS had graded 157 as CAM with an average numerical grade of 66.9. I am not a statistician and cannot tell you if the variation is significant. PCGS had also graded 12 as DCAMs while NGC had graded 8 as UCAMs.

My crossover experience is similar to Badger's. Some have crossed at the same grade while others have lost point. I was happy when a 1956 PF 68 UCAM crossed over to a PR 67 DCAM.

eagle7 · February 27, 2006 11:58AM

Thank you all. I normally use only PCGS but sent a few to NGC. I have one 56 Jeff proof that had great mirrors and was a cam plus obverse and a dcam reverse. I sent it to NGC and it came back 69 cam. I know PCGS would have given it only a 68 cam. I think that the money would be a wash from what each of you are saying. The NGC 69 cam will bring about what a PCGS 68 cam would bring I think. If anyone concurs or disagrees, please let me know.

100proof1957 · February 27, 2006 6:09PM

Eagle,

Dont kid yourself,PCGS may not give it a 68 CAM

you probably wont get PCGS 8 money for it either.

I have not seen the coin but i been round this block.

Proof

LucyBop · February 27, 2006 6:40PM

Yes the PCGs nickel would command more money...

This is due to the perception of PCGs being the tougher company in regards to grade. Which begs the question are they?

In my experience with trying to cross proofs from NGC holders I am a whopping 0 - 10.....

Sending in NGC crackouts in Franklins, I have done this 12 times and had 11 coins come back one grade point lower.
I did have a 57 NGC Cameo come back a PCGs PR68DCAM, my only major hit....

In washingtons I also have had all of them come back one grade point lower.....

Now, I have a very good eye for proofs, I can spot hairlines which can often be tough to see in a mirrored field. I don't believe
that I have been trying the above with average coins, rather I felt they all had a shot to aquire the same grade that they had
while residing in the NGC holders...

Now specifically dealing with Cameo nickels in NGC holders from the 1950s.... I have seen/handled a guestimate of 20 or so examples.
Only one that I remember was truely a Cameo coin. I think NGC is too liberal in its cameo designation of nickels from the 1950s.

This is just what I have encountered, some of the Proof Jefferson specialists on these boards may disagree with me as I'll
admit they have much more expertise in their area of specialty. Though I like my skills in spotting a cameo coin of any denomination from the 1950s.

Based on my experiences, PCGs is tougher then NGC grade for grade concerning proofs from the 1950s.

Would a 1956 Jefferson proof nickel

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