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New ebay Bust Quarter purchase...Just BIN'd it. Variety?

coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
I think it is a Browning 2...can anyone verify? The second 8 looks too thick compared to the B-2. ???



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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF35? Looks like an ANACS holder... I wonder what grade is printed on the holder. I get nervous when I see a slab but it's not identified as such...

    What's the rarity on an B-2?

  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I would be nervous also. Do you ask what the grade was and if it said net details? Otherwise a great looking coin.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin was discussed in this thread. The coin ended and then I saw it up again today....

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    John- how good a deal is $500.00 for this VF-30 coin? Does your suspicion of the B-2 add to the value?

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, here's my opinion (for whatever it's worth)...

    The obverse die crack from star 10 through stars 9 and 8 and into the field above the cap fits the characteriscs perfectly. I can't quite tell from the photo but am curious as to whether this crack extends from star 10 to the rim or not as this would signify a later die state. All of the stars are close to the denticals and star 1 very close to the drapery folds, also B2 typical. Lastly, star 13 is clearly doubled on the bottom 3 points.

    The scroll matches up perfectly to the B2 description of starting under the upright of D and ending under center foot of A with the I under T at left and S under S at right. I don't see the reverse crack from the edge through the lower arrow and upper arrow shafts which tells me it's an early die state and that matches up with the fact that I can't find the connecting crack on the obverse from the edge to star 10. I don't see any clashing present below the scroll.

    As far as the second 8 goes, it does appear a bit wider than the Browning coin. I don't think it's a characteric of the die though. All of the digits in the date look to be a bit wider than the Browning coin. I think this is due to wear more than anything.

    I'd say you have yourself an excellent example of a B2 in VF30 with seriously original surfaces and a very nice and crusty look to it. Although it is a common R1 variety and will demand no premium in that respect the coin should be strong on it's super originality and look, no Capped Bust Quarter is "common" compared to about 95% of all other types. I like the coin and I like the price you got it for. Good pick up, these things are getting harder and harder to find and seeing higher and higher hammer prices every day.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Attractive bust quarters are hard to find nice and original. This one has the "look" and will fit just fine in my set.

    Bust quarters dont buy and sell by the sheet. Plus greysheet is 275 in VF and 850 in XF. 500$ is pretty good I think.

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BlindedByEgo;

    The holder says VF30 with no net grading I believe (I'd put it at VF28 but that's just because I'm weird). To answer your question about the B2 variety, it is but a Rarity 1 and realistically holds no rarity premium. The coin itself will hold a premium over many other VF examples though because of the honest and original surfaces and look. Being undamaged and unmessed with can demand a premium just like a rarity rating can.

    On your other question about the price I feel it was a very fair price and I'd be willing to bet you that with some kick a$$ photographs and a very nice/professional auction the coin could easily be sold for more. I'd pay $500 for that coin every day of the week and not think twice about it. That's the thing with these Capped Bust quarters...they're not cheap and they're not going to get any cheaper any time soon.


  • I'd be nervous, if his 1834 quarter that doesn't show the whole slab either, is any indication.........I can barely see the printing on this coin and it kinda looks like it says retooled and he doesn't reveal that.


    1834 bust quarter

    edit to say: I'd be nervous about not seeing the whole slab.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That one is scratched and it shows...I would have bought that one without the scratch.
  • i like it for $100 (a little)........scratched on the reverse?.........right of the eagle?...... you think it's a 35?
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd be nervous, if his 1834 quarter that doesn't show the whole slab either, is any indication.........I can barely see the printing on this coin and it kinda looks like it says retooled and he doesn't reveal that.


    1834 bust quarter

    edit to say: I'd be nervous about not seeing the whole slab. >>



    The guy has perfect feedback and several auctions with ANACS plastic without the label showing. Positive feedback on all of those auctions. I'm not ruling foul play out all together I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion with this one. The coins displays very original surfaces and condition for the grade. I'm looking forward to hearing back from coinlieutenant when the coin is in hand.


  • i'm not questioning coinlieutenants coin or the seller being on the up and up....but if you look in the bottom left of the 1834 slab (where ANACS puts their comments) it looks like an "R" and an "E" and maybe a "T" next....any other ideas what that word could be?.....image


  • << <i>....but if you look in the bottom left of the 1834 slab (where ANACS puts their comments) it looks like an "R" and an "E" and maybe a "T" next....any other ideas what that word could be?..... >>



    Retoned


  • << <i>

    << <i>....but if you look in the bottom left of the 1834 slab (where ANACS puts their comments) it looks like an "R" and an "E" and maybe a "T" next....any other ideas what that word could be?..... >>



    Retoned >>



    of course tonelover would know.........thanks
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That makes alot more sense then retoned on that coin.
  • thx lieu

  • John, nice purchase! It is indeed a B-2. The immediate PUP is the die break on the obverse. This obverse die was only used on the B-2 marriage. Whenever I walk the floor and see an 1818 with a die break between the upper stars, I know that it is B-2 and it IS THE MOST common 1818 quarter....in my opinion. You paid the right price.

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