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opportunityopportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 9, 2019 6:53PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is wrong with cherry picking ebay? I rather enjoy looking at hundreds if not thousands of new listings every day searching for that hidden gem.....If I find one and get a seller to sell it to me or win it at auction is that bad? Will I lose sleep? Will I go to hell????

    Nah, lousy project, just let it go. Oh, I've been on ebay since 2002 and have under 100 feedbacks on my personal account which is the one I use to buy cherries.

    Your statement of getting inquiries from potential buyers on items you have already bought is bull crap, right? With ebay's system of anonymity how can they contact you? They don't know who you are, do they?

    bob:(

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was wondering the same thing. Buyers are anonymous.


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  • opportunityopportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2017 6:46PM

    I thought the same thing, until I started getting messages.

    AUandAG, did you even read my post right? My thoughts are to expose the bottom feeders who are ruining people's transactions by sending the sellers messages with offers for more, or as a vigilante.

    Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2017 6:51PM

    Buyers are mostly anonymous nowadays on ebay. One way someone could find you is if the same account is used for buying and selling cherry picks. On the bidding screen one can see that someone with say 10,555 feedback was the winner of the auction. Then they find a seller who sells varieties that also has 10,555 feedback. It's easy to connect the dots at that point. If you don't sell from that account, maybe one of the sellers gave your ebay id to someone who asked about a coin that sold?

    Either way, the only real way to become anonymous again would be to open a new ebay account that is used solely for cherry picking. That will be easier and more efficient than trying to catch the trolls.

  • BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These guys must have done business with you before and recognize your username, by seeing the first few and the last few characters.


    eBay ID-bruceshort978
    Successful BST:here and ATS, bumanchu, wdrob, hashtag, KeeNoooo, mikej61, Yonico, Meltdown, BAJJERFAN, Excaliber, lordmarcovan, cucamongacoin, robkool, bradyc, tonedcointrader, mumu, Windycity, astrotrain, tizofthe, overdate, rwyarmch, mkman123, Timbuk3,GBurger717, airplanenut, coinkid855 ,illini420, michaeldixon, Weiss, Morpheus, Deepcoin, Collectorcoins, AUandAG, D.Schwager.
  • opportunityopportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭

    I never sell on Ebay. It's a mystery to me. But that's mostly a separate point. The main theme with this is the idea of exposing people who interfere.

    Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @opportunity said:

    I never sell on Ebay. It's a mystery to me. But that's mostly a separate point. The main theme with this is the idea of exposing people who interfere.

    Did you buy something and post your new purchase here or on other coin boards?

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Show a true blue 1955 doubled dies linclon cent at a regular price. Watch them come out of the woodwork!

  • opportunityopportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    @opportunity said:

    I never sell on Ebay. It's a mystery to me. But that's mostly a separate point. The main theme with this is the idea of exposing people who interfere.

    Did you buy something and post your new purchase here or on other coin boards?

    Negative. I never talk about my cherries anywhere online. The reason I brought that up is that I feel like someone trolling like that is from the same underworld as people ruining deals. This person has like 3 feedbacks, but thousands of profile views. They obviously do it a lot. Somehow, they know of a technical glitch to still find the buyers.

    Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.

  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's the next step if you find the username? If they only have three feedbacks, nothing stops them from opening a new account since it's a buying account and feedback count is secondary.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since there seems to be no issue other than 'creepy messages', I am not sure what the problem is beyond that. What would you do if you found the messenger? They only offered to buy, correct? I understand it may be irritating, but beyond that, no legal issues. Cheers, RickO

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just report them on ebay. I thought there was a policy against something like this.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cherry picking that is the result of using your knowledge to find scarce or rare die varieites has been around for a long time. You might call such people "trolls," but the cherry pickers might call the "victims" "stiffs." This is especially true if you are dealer. If you you don't know your business well enough or are not will to put in the effort to avoid getting cherry picked, then you sort of deserve what you get.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think you need a hobby.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50+ year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
    Author: 3rd Edition of the SampleSlabs book, https://sampleslabs.info/
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 9,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 15, 2017 6:25AM

    As an eBay seller and buyer since 1998 I find the op post rather bizarre. I can't imagine somebody wasting their time with that.

    I buy many great deals there and flip them there later on there or at shows as I am in the business. That eBay is some kind of dangerous place to buy and sell is some of the most silly nonsense I have heard on these boards.

    Certainly any venue buyers should beware but why all this hating of eBay? Oh I see some can't compete with us.

    If u want chase trolls and griefers log onto GTA online (I am level 350) and they wb right outside your front door waiting for you.

    Investor
  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be cautious "laying a trap" on the internet.
    Just my opinion.
    The person trapped may trap you or at least file a claim or law suit depending on the level of deception.

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm missing the sociable aspects of this hobby like others where you actually interact and add color to your day to day life. Phone calls allow a lot more opportunity for understanding where people are coming from rather than impersonal emails. And the problem with using emails to deal with problems is that they can get out of hand quickly with hostility getting people's goat, like that case of the "scratched" holder of a war nickel, lol. Like "the Martian Chronicles".

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree @logger7
    Emails provide NO intonation regarding the words being said.
    A simple email, worded a 'little' wrong can create great angst.
    Again, JMO :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I disagree as emails or text messages give you a document of the conversation. You can send photos of the coin via email or text message while you can not do that on the phone. I have sent contracts via email. Try that with a phone call.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,115 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess I would say email has some value :smile:

    Successful transactions with : MICHAELDIXON, Manorcourtman, Bochiman, bolivarshagnasty, AUandAG, onlyroosies, chumley, Weiss, jdimmick, BAJJERFAN, gene1978, TJM965, Smittys, GRANDAM, JTHawaii, mainejoe, softparade, derryb, Ricko

    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Emails are a powerful business tool; I was just saying that the human/voice interaction is also powerful.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like "judge Judy" got emails to back you up.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sounds like a great opportunity

  • howardshowards Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭

    People breaking eBay rules are a fact of life. Annoying, but not worth doing anything about.

    The ones that bug me are the people who convince a seller to sell a coin off-eBay when I'm bidding on it.

    Let it go.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cherry picking that is the result of using your knowledge to find scarce or rare die varieites has been around for a long time. You might call such people "trolls," but the cherry pickers might call the "victims" "stiffs." This is especially true if you are dealer. If you you don't know your business well enough or are not will to put in the effort to avoid getting cherry picked, then you sort of deserve what you get.

    I agree with this. Stiffing a dealer by picking his cherries is a very satisfying experience.

    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.

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