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More COUNTERFEIT NGC and PCGS holders on eBay

The eBay seller, ahello2u23, has sold numerous Counterfeit NGC and PCGS holders on eBay. After he was outted, he has changed his MO. Here is an NGC Counterfeit holder 1907 Indian Cent NGC MS-66 RED he has on eBay:
1907 1C NGC MS-66RED COUNTERFEIT NGC holder

Here is what the REAL 1907 Indian Cent NGC MS-66 RED holder/coin look like:
REAL 1907 1C NGC MS-66RED holder

Here's the twist, if you enter the NGC Cert #666302-016 at the NGC cert look-up, there is no picture to compare to.

Interesting to note that even after all the counterfeits this guy has/is selling, eBay allows him to continue perpetrating his crimes.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reported

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a dirtbag.



    Reported.

    Lance.
  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    This "PCGS Secure" COUNTERFEIT holder is an interesting listing:
    1880-s $1 PCGS MS-66 Secure COUNTERFEIT holder

    This listing shows a picture of the REAL coin from the PCGS website, BUT, the picture he shows in the holder are clearly NOT the same coin......apparently this guy is outting himself in his own listing.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    just ttt so i can find it in my history later.



    keep up the good work. image

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    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    Here are some NEW counterfeit NGC holdered coins listed by this seller on eBay:

    1. 1881-s COUNTERFEIT NGC MS-65* holder
    1881-s NGC MS-65* COUNTERFEIT holder

    2. 1882-s COUNTERFEIT NGC MS-66 holder
    1882-S NGC MS-66 COUNTERFEIT

    3. 1880-S COUNTERFEIT NGC MS-67 holder
    1880-S NGC MS-67 COUNTERFEIT

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    reported again.



    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    Just received the following response from NGC about these new NGC Counterfeit holders:

    "Dear Sir,
    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It's either counterfeit or tampered with and we will report this.
    Thank you again,
    Lisa"
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like they are gone.
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so far the coin hobby is losing the battle of fake coins and yet you all are content to make excuses as to why you all can't do much



    shutting down fake coin auctions doesn't do any good against a billion dollar market and yet somehow you are convinced this is a good idea



    like using a spray bottle on a inferno doesn't do any good





    step up to the plate, stop making excuses and get the fake coin market gone



  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    All his auctions have distorted photos.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    so far the coin hobby is losing the battle of fake coins and yet you all are content to make excuses as to why you all can't do much

    shutting down fake coin auctions doesn't do any good against a billion dollar market and yet somehow you are convinced this is a good idea

    like using a spray bottle on a inferno doesn't do any good


    step up to the plate, stop making excuses and get the fake coin market gone



    Shutting down fake auctions does a lot of good. When each one is shut down, some potential buyer somewhere is saved from wasting their money.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    then tell me this TigersFan2



    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down



    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money



    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active



  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop

    then tell me this TigersFan2



    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down



    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money



    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active







    Don't worry they haven't got around to the CoinStar rejects yet.



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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish an auction page screenshot would be captured before these auctions are shut down.
    Would be educational and enjoyable.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    then tell me this TigersFan2

    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down

    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money

    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active



    You probably oppose the work of law enforcement trying to shut down crime, yet crime continues.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2



    You probably oppose the work of law enforcement trying to shut down crime, yet crime continues.




    dont feed the troll. image

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    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Drop a 75% tariff bomb on all US coins whose shipping address is outside USA. Screw this global economy. I won't ship international from USA, odds are too great that being ripped off looms on the horizon, false address, etc. Been there, done, that. It's vice-versa, odds are you will get ripped receiving from an international source. MHO
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    then tell me this TigersFan2

    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down

    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money

    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active



    Why so hostile about it? Whoa

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    One issue about Ebay is that it's relatively easy for a seller from China to list their auctions saying it's from a U.S. seller.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

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    image

    image

    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • callawayc7callawayc7 Posts: 303 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: crazyhounddog

    Originally posted by: silverpop

    then tell me this TigersFan2



    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down



    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money



    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active







    Why so hostile about it? Whoa









    Probably because we are shutting down his auctions. LOL!
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this guy is clearly doing the work himself and should be arrested
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gee



    care to prove that little statement there callawayc7 ?



    and i'm not being hostile I just want something besides words backing statements up



  • callawayc7callawayc7 Posts: 303 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop

    gee



    care to prove that little statement there callawayc7 ?



    and i'm not being hostile I just want something besides words backing statements up







    Gee, you don't understand what LOL means? It's call sarcasm, look it up!

    And why are you defending these crooks on EVERY thread about fakes and scams, hmmm?
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm walking away from this thread I have made my point and you all just backed that point up



    lots of luck in this shutting down fake coin auctions idea



  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    i'm walking away from this thread I have made my point and you all just backed that point up

    lots of luck in this shutting down fake coin auctions idea



    At least something is being done. I guess I don't understand your logic. So, don't do anything? REALLY?

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    so far the coin hobby is losing the battle of fake coins and yet you all are content to make excuses as to why you all can't do much

    shutting down fake coin auctions doesn't do any good against a billion dollar market and yet somehow you are convinced this is a good idea

    like using a spray bottle on a inferno doesn't do any good


    step up to the plate, stop making excuses and get the fake coin market gone



    How about you? Why don't YOU take care of this big problem?
    You certainly seem to have all the answers! image
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    so far the coin hobby is losing the battle of fake coins and yet you all are content to make excuses as to why you all can't do much

    shutting down fake coin auctions doesn't do any good against a billion dollar market and yet somehow you are convinced this is a good idea

    like using a spray bottle on a inferno doesn't do any good


    step up to the plate, stop making excuses and get the fake coin market gone



    Shutting down fake auctions does a lot of good. When each one is shut down, some potential buyer somewhere is saved from wasting their money.


    image
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: callawayc7
    Originally posted by: crazyhounddog
    Originally posted by: silverpop
    then tell me this TigersFan2

    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down

    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money

    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active



    Why so hostile about it? Whoa




    Probably because we are shutting down his auctions. LOL!


    imageimage
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: asheland

    Originally posted by: callawayc7

    Originally posted by: crazyhounddog

    Originally posted by: silverpop

    then tell me this TigersFan2



    how much does the fake coin market lose each time a fake coin auction is shut down



    and then show me the % of buyers who have saved their money



    then show me the amount of fake coin auctions per country and how many are shut down and how many are still active







    Why so hostile about it? Whoa









    Probably because we are shutting down his auctions. LOL!




    imageimage




    I figure he's mad that even one of them is bringing more than his collection is worth.



    image



  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

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