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Trying to understand Retro Old Green holders

I've been seeing for a while that PCGS has been offering Retro Old Green holders for an additional $4 with a submission. Help me understand why someone would want to pay more for the color of the label in the holder. Is it just a gimmick to charge a little more or is there a practical reason for someone to want the Retro Old Green holder?
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just a gimmick.



    Surely some folks will pay for them. Something different, I guess. Maybe they hope that one day they will command a premium.

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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes a gimmick, and in honor of some well respected company history. The green labels stand out a bit more in a case full of blue labels.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some people think that the Old Green Label (OGL) coins were more conservatively graded. On average they did tend to come conservatively graded, but you can't blindly accept that as a given.
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  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The green holder fits in the NGC storage boxes while the newer ones do not, not a big deal but it is nice.
  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I collect mainly old gold. I love the look of the green label with gold. I would love to have a few of the newer ones in my collection as well.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's like anything else that you can buy where options are available.



    Some people like chrome on their vehicles, white lettered tires, whatever.



    Stainless fridges work just as well as the white ones.



    I think they look pretty cool and don't disparage anyone who chooses this option.

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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    Haven't gotten any of the new retro OGH slabs yet.



    But, I do like the look of the originals and prefer them when I can find the right coin.





    Mike
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In California, you can now get "retro" orange on black license plates for your car. They're very popular on "retro" cars like recent model Challengers and Camaros.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I spend my extra money on variety attribution fess......can't see the extra for a colored label.
  • PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Baley
    In California, you can now get "retro" orange on black license plates for your car. They're very popular on "retro" cars like recent model Challengers and Camaros.


    Those new black plates are cool!

    For the longest time (and maybe still) cars that had original black plates traded at a significant premium. It used to be a sign that a car had been in California it's whole life. The idea being a car that always lived in California would be in better condition than............. oh wow, great analogy!
  • ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭✭
    I've got two crossovers in the queue & decided to go for the retro labels, just for kicks.
  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a label collector and I call out the Mint when they come up with a new modern "gimmick"... that being said, I wasn't around (at least collecting) when the OGH labels were used and my next submission will be Retro labels. You don't see many toners in green labels, especially Lincolns.
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People have a fascination for the original old green holders, b/c of nostalgia, attractiveness and also because SOME coins in them can be under-graded.



    Though not as good as the original---getting a coin in a new retro holder is an easy way to do that, as it conjures up some beauty and reminiscence of things past.



    Some say it cheapens the brand. It may or may not. But I guess that I see nothing wrong with it, since the new ones are easily distinguishable and since people do seem to like them.



    Would I buy a new retro one? As a submission--no. But if I saw a nice coin already in one---yes.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have 3 coins in for crossover and I decided to get the secure OGHs for grins. Won't do it for any others but what the heck?...just figured I would get a couple. Friday was business day 15 for my regular secure submission. I hope they get finished soon. I'm getting anxious. Granted, I won't complain about the delay if the grades are favorable. image
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  • GeorgeKelloggGeorgeKellogg Posts: 1,251 ✭✭
    Here are some possible reasons why folks would pay the $4 for the Retro Old Green Holders:

    (1) As with anything 'retro' -- there is a nostalgic appeal for some people (usually older folks, who fondly identify with the 'retro' look).

    (2) For those who like Old Green Holders and/or have OGH sets, it's an opportunity to have a matching look -- for coins that they're having trouble finding in OGHs.

    (3) Some coins look better against the background of the green label. As an example, I think gold coins look much nicer with a green background.
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  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First there 7 bucks extra.



    Second I really like the way they look with My Washington Quarters and Only doing Variety Ones.....



    Third its my money......Enjoy image





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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After many years of conditioning, eyes are drawn to the OGH labels, consciously and unconsciously. If you're a dealer looking to attract potential buyers to coins in your showcase, the retro holders are a bargain.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: GeorgeKellogg

    Here are some possible reasons why folks would pay the $4 for the Retro Old Green Holders:



    (1) As with anything 'retro' -- there is a nostalgic appeal for some people (usually older folks, who fondly identify with the 'retro' look).



    (2) For those who like Old Green Holders and/or have OGH sets, it's an opportunity to have a matching look -- for coins that they're having trouble finding in OGHs.



    (3) Some coins look better against the background of the green label. As an example, I think gold coins look much nicer with a green background.





    I agree with all, especially #3.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They dropped the ball by using the Arial font instead of the superior Univers font that was on the originals.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How much for a doily?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not a label collector, but I did notice I have a green label Buff, MS66, 1938D....Just happened to be in the Buff drawer this morning...image Cheers, RickO
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka

    After many years of conditioning, eyes are drawn to the OGH labels, consciously and unconsciously. If you're a dealer looking to attract potential buyers to coins in your showcase, the retro holders are a bargain.




    Initially that's probably true. But, then the collector has to actually buy something out of that case. If they were looking for the old style OGH's they will be disappointed. When doing a show I at last quickly scan every coin in every case in my areas of interest. While a green label may get my attention first, it won't keep it very long if the coin is not nice looking and/or a retro holder. I'd probably ask these dealers, do you have any classic ogh's that aren't currently out in the case?



    Some newbies might actually buy these things figuring they're getting the real thing from the 1990's. If they repro enough of these that should cheapen the real ogh's by a bit. It would be nice if submitters chose only their solid for the grade and high end coins for these retro submissions. But, I'd guess it will probably be anything but that.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are rattlers next?
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: messydesk

    They dropped the ball by using the Arial font instead of the superior Univers font that was on the originals.




    I'm pretty sure that was intentionally done to avoid undue confusion.



  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭




    Are these just for the 30th anniversary (as marked on the holder) and then going away as an option or will it be permanent?



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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There sure are a lot of them appearing in auctions.



    It's a 1 year promotion.



    I bought a couple for my generations "project".
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