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Coins on 19th Century Private Currency

sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
Coins were sometimes depicted to enhance the acceptance of paper scrip at times when coins were unavailable to merchants. Here's a few examples, just from NY city scrip notes. Questions?

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are cool.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting.... I did see some of those at a coin show in Seattle some years back...

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very very nice. I'm a big fan of these. I've seen a few of these but not the ones posted. image
  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a few more:


    The NH $1, $2, $3 and $5 notes depict gold dollars for two reasons.


    1) To help the illiterate understand the face value and


    2) To prevent raising of the denomination by alteration.


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonderful stuff!
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are really neat! Thanks for posting them.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the new pieces as well. This is an area that I've always been interested in so it's great to see someone focus on these with such good results!
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    If the depiction of United States coins on nineteenth century (and earlier) United States currency interests you, you really should watch the interesting and extremely well researched presentation made by 12 year old numismatic prodigy Garrett Ziss to the John Reich Collectors Society (JRCS) annual meeting at the ANA Summer Convention in August of 2015. Garrett made a very well researched presentation, and kept the room's attention, resulting in a standing ovation at the end. While only twelve years old, and only a collector for a very few years, his knowledge of early Federal coins, specifically Capped Bust halves, amazes even experts in the field. Keep his name in mind, as he will certainly continue on his numismatic path.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrHalfDime

    If the depiction of United States coins on nineteenth century (and earlier) United States currency interests you, you really should watch the interesting and extremely well researched presentation made by 12 year old numismatic prodigy Garrett Ziss to the John Reich Collectors Society (JRCS) annual meeting at the ANA Summer Convention in August of 2015. Garrett made a very well researched presentation, and kept the room's attention, resulting in a standing ovation at the end. While only twelve years old, and only a collector for a very few years, his knowledge of early Federal coins, specifically Capped Bust halves, amazes even experts in the field. Keep his name in mind, as he will certainly continue on his numismatic path.




    Great presentation! I just watched all 3 vids! I'm impressed. Thanks for posting it imageimage
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    being in Nevada (raised and currently living) I look for obsoletes, unissued and other oddities from the Silver State.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool stuff. Love the piece with the reales on it!
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice notes AUandAG! I'm a big fan of Nevada-related items as well, especially when they have to do with Nevada silver.
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post, sellitstore.

    Those are cool.image

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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mr.HalfDime- Thanks for posting that great link to the Garrett Ziss presentation. You're right-he's one to watch and a very impressive 12 year old.


    The Bust Half that he starts his presentation with, the 0-103 reverse on the Tennessee scrip note, is very significant for another reason. I believe that the reverse image is due to the fact that an actual half dollar was used to print the note. I also believe that similar quarter and dime denominations exist. This is very unusual because the coin images are usually engraved into the printing plate, while I believe that an actual coin was used on the plate to print these.


    Bob- The Manhattan Silver Mining scrip has always been a favorite of mine, too. The town scene and printed revenue stamp greatly adds to the appeal of these. Have you ever seen any of these notes issued? I finally saw one a few months back but wasn't willing to pay enough to own it.
    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,993 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Bob- The Manhattan Silver Mining scrip has always been a favorite of mine, too. The town scene and printed revenue stamp greatly adds to the appeal of these. Have you ever seen any of these notes issued? I finally saw one a few months back but wasn't willing to pay enough to own it.



    There is only one documented signed set of Manhattan Silver's. The one you saw a few months ago was not the proper signature and was signed in 1921 if I recall correctly. I did not go for it either. Wonder why it was signed 50 years later by some unknown person. Weird.



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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a few others:


    I'm not sure that the first one is an actual coin.


    I also have a note or two somewhere with another fantasy coin-an 1853 A&R Seated Dollar. I'll try to locate that one.

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    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.

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