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Which series has the fewest number of Rattler holders left?

ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have found that Jefferson nickels in Rattlers are quite scarce. Probably because not many were graded but is there a series you have found Rattlers to be quite scarce?

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭✭
    The scarcest series in rattlers from the start, where there were any certified to begin with, is Susan B. Anthony dollars, especially in mint state (you can check out a 12/89 rattler pop report from the ANA library). If I recall correctly, there is only 1 mint state SBA of each date/mintmark.

    However, for scarcity based on crackouts, I would consider which series have had the most gradeflation in the past 25 years. To me, that means some series in gold. Maybe $3 princesses or $5 Indians...
  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭
    Coins minted after 1982.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great question and no idea as to an answer.

    Unfortunately, I do not know when PCGS started publishing their pop reports- I think I may have one that dates back to the early 1990s if I am able to find it

    Ikes?

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can say that it's not Walkers as I see them from time to time. I want to pick some rattlers up before they're harder to get.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you search "PCGS" tonight in the titles on ebay, you'll get 65K hits.

    PCGS Rattlers - 396.
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The question begging to be answered is.........why are there still coins in rattlers??

    On occasion a few come to market that are fresh and nice but the rest are there for a reason.................
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The question begging to be answered is.........why are there still coins in rattlers??

    On occasion a few come to market that are fresh and nice but the rest are there for a reason................. >>



    Yes and no, there are a fair number of common date Morgans in the 63-64 grade range that are very nice coins but not worth the regrade costs to try and upgrade to a 64 or possible 65 grade. Another possible reason as to why there are coins in rattlers, because some collectors like myself are not worried about lining the coffers of TPG's by sending them in for regrade, an example is my 09-SVDB sill in its rattler holder.
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  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The question begging to be answered is.........why are there still coins in rattlers??

    On occasion a few come to market that are fresh and nice but the rest are there for a reason................. >>



    Colorful originally toned copper seems often to stay in rattlers and OGH's. I'm not touching mine because I like the story. But I've gotten off topic
    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The question begging to be answered is.........why are there still coins in rattlers??

    On occasion a few come to market that are fresh and nice but the rest are there for a reason................. >>




    I have a 8-10 1950s Proof Jeffersons in rattlers, all graded PR66 or PR67. All worth less than $100 each, maybe even $50 each so there would be no reason to ever have them regraded or to crack them out.

  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a starting point, the September 1, 1989 Population Report showed the following low pop Mint State type coins:

    1793 1/2c 1
    Liberty Cap 1/2c 3
    1793 Chain 1c 1
    Wreath 1c 2
    Draped bust H10c Small eagle 8
    Draped bust 25c Small eagle 7
    Flowing 50c 3
    1839 50c No Drapery 50c 3
    Flowing hair $1 5
    Draped bust $1 Small eagle 2
    Draped bust $2½, Stars 6
    1808 $2½ 3
    Draped bust $5 Small eagle 4
    Cap head $5 9
    Draped bust $10, Small eagle 6

    As for specific modern coins, most post-1936 Lincoln cents are VERY scarce in rattlers (less than 25 for most dates from 1937-1939, no more than 10 for dates from 1940-1944, and a GRAND TOTAL of 11 coins (excluding varieties) for the years 1945-1989 COMBINED! That makes those dates super-rare in rattlers!

    A total of 54 mint state Jefferson nickels from 1950-1964 (ZERO coins after 1964!) had been graded, and 12 of those were the "scarce" 1950-D.

    Roosevelts up through 1958 were inexplicably popular, with dozens of most dates graded. After 1958, the highest pop for any date was 15 for the 1964-D. In clads, other than the 1982 no P, a grand total of 2 MS coins were graded for the years 1965-1989 combined.

    Early Washingtons were popular, with every date from the '30's having at least 200 coins graded, except the '32-D & S and the '34-D. Late date silver Washingtons were not deemed worthy of being slabbed; none after 1958 had more than 10 MS coins graded. NO mint state copper-nickel clad quarters from 1965-1989 had been graded.

    Kennedy's? For the years 1965-1969, there were a total of 15 MS pieces. There was just a SINGLE 1971-D half for all the years of copper-nickel clad production. That's ONE COIN for 1971 through 1989!

    Ike dollars, excluding the 1971-D and 1972-D, had MS pops ranging from 1 to 16.

    Anthony dollars: each of these dates had one MS coin graded: 1979-P, 1980-D, 1980-S, 1981-P, and 1981-S. Five coins, 1 MS63, 3 MS64's, and 1 MS65.

    In modern commemoratives, the 1983-D and 1983-S Olympic dollars had the lowest pops, 5 and 4 coins, respectively.

    Silver eagles: the inaugural year of 1986 saw a comparatively high number of coins. The numbers diminished for 1987, and were lower yet for 1988. 1989 was not yet on the report.

    Gold eagles: 1986: $5 (12), $10 (8), $25 (14), $50 (6); 1987: $5 (8), $10 (3), $25 (41), $50 (6); 1988: $5 (14), $10 (26), $25 (44), $50 (0). Any 1989's were not yet on the report.

    It's obvious that mint state modern coins were simply NOT submitted very often; proofs fared a bit better. ALL types of modern issues (SBA's commems, and eagles) had a combined total of 13 MS/PR70 coins.

    This illustrates how the market for moderns has come of age, for better or for worse.

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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Ezcellent cocohead!

    I knew those old catalogs wood be handy some day!

    Amazing about the Kennedys!
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The scarcest series in rattlers from the start, where there were any certified to begin with, is Susan B. Anthony dollars, especially in mint state (you can check out a 12/89 rattler pop report from the ANA library). If I recall correctly, there is only 1 mint state SBA of each date/mintmark.

    However, for scarcity based on crackouts, I would consider which series have had the most gradeflation in the past 25 years. To me, that means some series in gold. Maybe $3 princesses or $5 Indians... >>



    When this guy writes about PCGS rattlers I listen. He is the rattler king. Sit down and talk rattlers with him once, and you will become a believer.
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,581 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suspect there aren't many DBHE $1 left in rattlers.
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the informatino Cocoinut. Very insightful.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I haven't seen any 3 cent silvers in rattlers and what about large cents and 1/2 cents? I don't think I have ever seen any as well
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  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure everyone can say "I haven't seen --------", but other than the one I have I have yet to see any twenty cent pieces in rattlers in the past four or five years. I would consider a fair amount of the high grade and high dollar coins cracked out long ago in many cases. When it comes to being scarce finds in rattlers I would go with 20 cent pieces, modern commemoratives, hawaiin coins and pre-1834 gold.

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