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Titian Peale's Liberty head design - 1832

RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 24, 2018 12:47PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here is a composite of some of Titian Ramsay Peale's designs for a Head of Liberty for U.S. coins. What do modern collectors think, especially compared to Kneass' designs? (Courtesy American Philosophical Society)

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All of the "bust left" views are not too different from what came to pass. They are actually more attractive.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2018 1:21PM

    Very attractive. Better than we have now. We had very nice coins in the past.

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So the designs for the Liberty head gold is properly: Gobrecht, after Titian Peale

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  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's make it a nearly contemporaneous comparison. Here is a WIlliam Kneass design for a Head of Liberty done in 1834. (Courtesy Library Company of Philadelphia)

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most "artistic" designs of the period seemed to follow the same pattern -- pseudo-Classic Greek. Tough to say with any authority who made which design..... ?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I appreciate the difficulty of transposing female physical beauty to metallic design, I really think it could have been done better... The Peace dollar has a much more attractive depiction of Liberty... The old designs look as if they modeled it on some dowager who just sucked a lemon...Cheers, RickO

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ah, yes -- the very famous, but obscure "Seated Dowager sucking a Lemon" design used for the $2.73 Trade Two Dollar and Seventy-Three Cent Goloid International Trade Coin. This was also known as "Stella's Fella."

  • KoinickerKoinicker Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    The forward lean of Liberty's portrait in the OPs post could be characterized as overly anxious, alert and/or uncomfortable, and not as calming as the more upright portrait of Liberty as was used on U.S. coins. Therefore, while these are nice sketches, I'm happy they weren't chosen.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe that was Wiliam Kneass "Leaning Liberty" version....?

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice and artistically done !!! :)

    Timbuk3

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