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It is time to give all eBay sellers a course on identifying older holders.

affordafford Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't know how many times an eBay seller will describe and then provide a photo of a so-called older slab/holder only to be wrong about it. I understand the hype and that they know the older holder sells ....but only if it is a true older holder and not one that isn't. Another waste of time unfortunately on the bay.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most of what I run into is key word spamming - they know the difference.

    I love the occasional "old blue PCGS holder". :lol:

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 10:15PM

    occasional? It's pretty darn frequent! And some regular (non-ebay) dealers use the "old blue holder" phrase frequently. :(

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barndog said:
    occasional? It's pretty darn frequent! And some regular (non-ebay) dealers use the "old blue holder" phrase frequently. :(

    @Barndog said:
    occasional? It's pretty darn frequent! And some regular (non-ebay) dealers use the "old blue holder" phrase frequently. :(

    But there are of course "OBH"s that are virtually the same "age" as some "OGHs".

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A photo tutorial with detailed description would be a real asset to the PCGS reference sites.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, and some of the OGHs had unstable colors that would turn blueish.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barndog said:
    occasional? It's pretty darn frequent! And some regular (non-ebay) dealers use the "old blue holder" phrase frequently. :(

    Well, some are claiming that PCGS was more conservative back then than it is currently. There are parallels to the OGH era.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2017 11:46PM

    @afford said:
    and I am talking descriptions of old blue holder pcgs coins that aren't really all that old. Descriptions of supposed old ngc holders that are not the older no line fatty holders or any holder close to that era. And the descriptions using the old small white anacs holder that aren't really old, they are just in the small white holder but have digits that are greater than 6 which means they were submitted right before the holders went blue which is not really all the long ago, circa mid 2000's to a little after if memory serves. They will stretch the truth. change the facts to support their higher asking price or to gain that attention for more vigorous bidding.

    It's all marketing whether it is OBH or OGH, etc.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems the thing to do is leave PCGS out of the title but enter it under "Item specifics" from the drop down box. The items show up in PCGS searches even though it's not in the title.

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    The only thing I see is OGH in the titles

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Then you have collectors like myself... I just don't care about the holder.... period. Cheers, RickO

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Then you have collectors like myself... I just don't care about the holder.... period. Cheers, RickO

    Agree, agree, agree...Did I just give you another star? ;)

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not yet @grip.... I am not sure there is another star.... if there is, I am sure it is in the far distant future.... Cheers, RickO

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where to draw the line on old holder with PCGS? Rattler, old green label holder? With NGC, "fattie" or low six figures cert. number?

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And yet, so many of the sellers don't have a clue. They call ICG ANACS. They try to sell NGC OGH. Best or worse recent insult was calling an ICG slab ACG.

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    WmwoodWmwood Posts: 102 ✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    And yet, so many of the sellers don't have a clue. They call ICG ANACS. They try to sell NGC OGH. Best or worse recent insult was calling an ICG slab ACG.

    Browsing for dingbats is a great way to pass half an hour on the exercise bike.

    I'm pretty sure most of the sellers who do that know exactly what they are doing. There are very few true "accidents" on Ebay when it relates to powersellers.

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got a Old Green that is totally Yellow. :smiley:

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭

    For sample collectors like me, I root for people not knowing their samples, thinking they are regular holders, and selling them cheap. However, for regular coins, I totally agree.

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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    PCGS should start to put a "vintage" date on the holders. Just like wines.
    Then we could really become "coin snobs", collecting coins by grade and vintage.
    Which is already occurring for some series in OGH with CAC stickers. ie most gold coins.

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