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Got two negs today on the 'Bay

Stupidly used a saved Morgan Template to list two Ike Lots.... my fault for sure.

Clearly listed as Ikes from the 1970's with images. At least one was a variety.

San5chez buys the 8 coins (two 4 coin lots) for $6 each...$12 total

I check in today and see my feedbacked got nuked twice...

I mean seriously... no communication and two negs over a net of $4?

His complaint was that they were not 90% silver as listed in the Ebay historical description.

Arghhh...

I was apologetic but day-yum.... nearly 600 positives nuked over $4

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Surprisingly, call eBay and tell them exactly this.
    You may end up with a pleasant resolution.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My list of blocked bidders keeps growing ...
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got a invalid for the eBay ID mentioned.

  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...


    But can't you go back to the auction and see what he changed his id to?
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...


    I guess sending him a feedback modification request is off the table then.
    It is usually the sub $10 buyers who leave negs.
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a tool.

    Yeah, you made a mistake (who hasn't ?) but if bidder/buyer had any doubts as to what he was bidding on, he should have contacted you first--or, done the common sense thing, and just not bid on the lot if there was a possible listing error.
  • nutmegnutmeg Posts: 345 ✭✭

    You threaten to bash him on the forums and expect him to change his feedback?
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    I once bought a raw 1935 Peace Dollar that was listed in the auction as a 1933 Peace Dollar. The picture was clear and I had enough brains to know I was buying a 1935 Peace Dollar. Sometimes people think it's someone else's responsibility to think for them.

    I think the buyer would have had a serious complaint if multiple bidders thought the same thing and his purchase price was above the melt price of the coins being silver. But based on his winning bid price, he bid knowing what he was purchasing.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well, you did make a mistake in the listing. Any communication from him before the negs? He should have least given you an opportunity to make it right.
  • deefree49deefree49 Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Topographic Ocean and have found from my own experiences on eBay, it is the nickel and dime buyers that complain the most. By far.
    Lincoln coin lover, especially Matte Proofs
  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: derryb
    well, you did make a mistake in the listing. Any communication from him before the negs? He should have least given you an opportunity to make it right.


    OP stated in opening post there was no communication ...just negs.
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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That eBay template stuff is crap
    one checkmark scrues you

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eisenh...a3b:g:EroAAOSwvgdW24LS
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A neg over such a small dollar buy is lame. Sorry. I've never left a neg even when sellers really deserved them. Karma and all that.
  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
    I have heard anecdotal reports that very low value Ebay sales carry a much higher risk of running into someone like this.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...


    Of all the things to say, this should not be one of them. Now eBay has that against you.

  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    I figured if there was an Ike variety somebody would be happy.

    I should have just bought a happy meal.


  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...


    That was a big mistake. I have gotten a few dumb negatives over stuff like that, and always apologize, give full refunds, thank them for their business, ask them to consider buying from me again so I can make things right, etc. After they calm down they have always agreed to change the feedback. Never have I insulted them back though. I doubt anything can be done now.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something to do with honey and vinegar and bees.

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  • djmdjm Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: braddick
    Something to do with honey and vinegar and bees.


    If you pull off their wings they'll eat what ever you feed them
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buyer expected 90% silver Ikes and Negs you when they aren't? Huh?



    Where can I get some of them 90% Ikes anyways?!
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This seller left me this POSITIVE, but used the FB to ping Ebay on something that she screwed up.

    Have not received my $ from e-bay yet but process was great buyer was wonderful (#322022420817)

    Nothing I can do.

    Cheers

    Bob
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer

    A neg over such a small dollar buy is lame. Sorry. I've never left a neg even when sellers really deserved them. Karma and all that.




    +1



    The guy is a serious tool.



    It would take A LOT for me to neg someone.



    Worst thing I ever did to a seller was leave no feedback at all.



    I'd call eBay immediately and maybe they can help you, as that is really unfair imho.



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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What an unreasonable sort, I have blocked him, what a bad break for you. Do these people think this stuff is free?
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: nutmeg



    You threaten to bash him on the forums and expect him to change his feedback?




    !?



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  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    I'm just waiting for the return/refund request....

    Since I cannot recall ever having this issue, I never knew the feedback could be amended.




  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The buyer's ID is still valid. I just looked at it and read his negs and your responses.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just looked at one of your listings. The listings are clear as day as to what you are selling; however, you should not use the template things that eBay creates for you. Sometimes those things have errors in them. Plus, when you are selling what you are selling, no one wants to read a dissertation on the IKE or even a Morgan. Just say what you are selling. Post a pictures or two and be done.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Selling 4 Ikes for $6.26 with free shipping means you lost money counting the packaging right? Then add the 2 negatives.

    Since your auction did not say silver and only the eBay template did, you might still be able to have those removed if you call and get the right person.
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is usually the sub $10 buyers who leave negs.


    How true!
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,220 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: braddick

    Something to do with honey and vinegar and bees.


    The saying refers to flies.



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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Outhaul
    This seller left me this POSITIVE, but used the FB to ping Ebay on something that she screwed up.

    Have not received my $ from e-bay yet but process was great buyer was wonderful (#322022420817)

    Nothing I can do.

    Cheers

    Bob


    I don't think she screwed up at all. Ebay/PAYPAL hold funds on new sellers until feedback is left by buyer, to protect themselves from fraud.

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you catch more flies with honey then you do with vinegar



    basically always remember make sure the details are covered from A to Z then some



    give detailed info on the coin and never say you will get even bad move

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  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    I have begged for mercy... we shall see.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    He must have changed his ID cause I told him I would bash him on the forums...


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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: davewesen
    Originally posted by: Outhaul
    This seller left me this POSITIVE, but used the FB to ping Ebay on something that she screwed up.

    Have not received my $ from e-bay yet but process was great buyer was wonderful (#322022420817)

    Nothing I can do.

    Cheers

    Bob


    I don't think she screwed up at all. Ebay/PAYPAL hold funds on new sellers until feedback is left by buyer, to protect themselves from fraud.



    That feedback violates two of eBay's feedback rules.
    First, you can't leave a false positive. A positive with a 'negative' statement is a violation.
    Second, You can't mention within a feedback a refund/pending refund from eBay.

    Either or both of those violations will get eBay to delete the comment.

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: nutmeg

    You threaten to bash him on the forums and expect him to change his feedback?



    That was after the seller (OP) made an error in his listing as well...
  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    I may have to add a seller to my hit list.

    I mean... just email me and say...

    "I'm lazy. Thank you for attributing this nice VAM. Would you send me an extra $100 and I wont cheat you out of the coin or sell it to the other guy ?"


  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buyers like him don't want to work things out or give you an opportunity to make things right~that's why they don't email you before leaving negative feedback. I wouldn't spend any more time even thinking about it~buyers won't care and it will have zero effect on your bidding activity.


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  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    I may have to add a seller to my hit list.

    I mean... just email me and say...

    "I'm lazy. Thank you for attributing this nice VAM. Would you send me an extra $100 and I wont cheat you out of the coin or sell it to the other guy ?"




    Yep... seller playing dumb.

    Ironic week.

    I guess it's the cherrypicking gods telling me that I have had my fill as of late.

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It sounds like you didn't handle your mistake well.

    LCoopie = Les
  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    In related ebay news...

    If you sell on ebay and are prone to steal and replace a coin you are too lazy to attribute... It might be next week or two years, but karma is coming

  • unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    Update... san5chez revised feedback. All is well on that front.

    Now... as for the seller who stole my 1886 VAM 20 cherrypick. I'm not going to reveal your identity, but rest assured... Your day is coming.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Bummer.....it is always the under $10 buyer that thinks they are God and deserve something for nothing.

    I love the guys that buy $8 items and return them and you pay all the shipping.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: nutmeg

    You threaten to bash him on the forums and expect him to change his feedback?



    That's funny.
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭✭
    Blocked. Thanks for the heads up.

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