Is this authentic

AstroJoe

See this : 1832 Half Dime



I'm not the best on this series, I notice the I in Liberty looks odd, and the last S in States looks like squeezed in. Thoughts?

dcarr

Hard to tell - the pictures are funky.
But it appears to be genuine, although harshly wire-brushed.

MrHalfDime

The coin exhibits the diagnostics of the 1832 LM-5/V8, an R1 die marriage. But as DCarr points out, it has been harshly wire brushed. Both loops of S2 (second S in STATES) are filled, but only the upper loop of S1 appears to be filled, which seems slightly odd. There is no evidence of the retained cud which develops on the reverse, first below A1 to the scroll, and later from T1 (UNITED) to the upper left corner of the scroll, so it is an intermediate die state. It appears to be genuine, but damaged.

Because this die marriage is an R1, and can be readily found, I would avoid this wire brushed, or whizzed, coin. Other nice examples will certainly come along.

LanceNewmanOCC

Originally posted by: dcarr

Hard to tell - the pictures are funky.

But it appears to be genuine, although harshly wire-brushed.

this whizzing can strongly affect the edges of devices and cap give coins a counterfeit look.



i used to think they were until i started seeing it on all type of coins i knew to be authentic.



the whizzing is so strong it literally pushes metal up to the top edge of devices giving them a high, sharp-looking edge. almost like an outline.

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BillJones

The coin has an odd look to it in my opinion. The rims seem high to me and first picture gives it a "reasonable facsimile" appearance. I'm nowhere near the expert on half dimes that Mr. Half Dime is, but I don't like it.

The fact that it's been whizzed bothers me too. The latest treads with the counterfeit coins that got into genuine third party grading service holders have been that the pieces were whizzed or polished so that they got an "improperly cleaned" label. Whizzing and polishing gives the counterfeiter the opportunity to remove or blur the telltale lumps and lines that sometimes give away the use of copy dies.

Finally, the photography is odd. Some of the pictures are surprisingly sharp, but the lighting is weird. Those who offer counterfeits sometimes play games with their pictures to hide problems.

It could be real, but why take the chance? I'd say "Run Forest, run!"

MrHalfDime

I am not aware of any cast counterfeits of this die marriage (1832 LM-5/V8), although there certainly could be some. I do have, however, a watch key made from a (genuine) specimen of this die marriage. Any definitive determination as to the authenticity of this coin cannot be made strictly from images, especially from the sellers pictures. That determination can only be made with the coin in hand. Again, I would strongly suggest avoiding this coin. Better examples of this die marriage, even in high grade, are readily available.

Jackthecat1

I am not a half dime expert but I agree with the other posters that the coin has an odd look and would best be avoided.

291fifth

When the photos are that bad it is best to pass.

Raybo

Originally posted by: MrHalfDime
The coin exhibits the diagnostics of the 1832 LM-5/V8, an R1 die marriage. But as DCarr points out, it has been harshly wire brushed. Both loops of S2 (second S in STATES) are filled, but only the upper loop of S1 appears to be filled, which seems slightly odd. There is no evidence of the retained cud which develops on the reverse, first below A1 to the scroll, and later from T1 (UNITED) to the upper left corner of the scroll, so it is an intermediate die state. It appears to be genuine, but damaged.

Because this die marriage is an R1, and can be readily found, I would avoid this wire brushed, or whizzed, coin. Other nice examples will certainly come along.

Listen to this person / , one of my favorite posters.

CaptHenway

Gut feeling is genuine, whizzed but would not touch it with a ten foot pole.

Coin Finder

Doesn't look right, pass

AstroJoe

The majority say to avoid. That I will. Gut says stay away.

When in doubt, wait until the next shows up.

If someone else bought it and he likes it and real, a good win for him.