You guys think this tiny Netherlands 1869 10 cents will grade?
mercurydimeguy
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Coin looks really old and crusty, wish I could adequately capture all the color angles of it. The metal is supposedly silver, but it must be a different composition because it's not quite like other silver coins. Not sure it will grade, so looking for your opinions. It looks fine to me in hand, but do you think the surfaces are damaged? Given the color, etc., and it being silver?
I bought it for $52 so I don't have a lot of cost sunk into it, but don't want to sink a grading fee into it if you guys think it won't grade. I like the look of it for my 1869 set, and original 1869 coins from Netherlands are challenging to find, but if you don't think it will grade I'll look for another example...
Thanks!
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These are .640 fine, so a low silver alloy; almost billon. That accounts for the different coloration.
PS- based on Krause values of $70 in XF and $150 in MS60, you shouldn't come out too bad after grading fees. That looks at least choice AU to me, if not MS. So if it comes back AU-something, you'll be about even, and MS-anything, you win. (MS63 or better, you get a home run, since it trends $250 in that grade.) Plus you'll have the TrueView.
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Still, it does look just a tiny bit granular in the pictures?
Still, it does look just a tiny bit granular in the pictures?
That granular look is sparkles of light coming from luster. If it straight grades, I think it will grade AU55 or better. It has a lot of luster, underneath, but it's either a weak strike in some areas or some wear, but the coin was shipped to me in a small 2x2 yellow envelope with typewritten info on it, looks like 1960's vintage...so maybe the coin got that way because it sat in that envelope in someone's collection for 50+ years.
Anyhow, based on your feedback I'll take a shot at it, and maybe Phil's photos will be better than mine when it gets graded/secure imaged.
Thanks for all your feedback!
That granular look is sparkles of light coming from luster. If it straight grades, I think it will grade AU55 or better. It has a lot of luster, underneath, but it's either a weak strike in some areas or some wear, but the coin was shipped to me in a small 2x2 yellow envelope with typewritten info on it, looks like 1960's vintage...so maybe the coin got that way because it sat in that envelope in someone's collection for 50+ years.
Anyhow, based on your feedback I'll take a shot at it, and maybe Phil's photos will be better than mine when it gets graded/secure imaged.
Thanks for all your feedback!
A 64% silver coin in a 40-50-year-old paper coin envelope? Sounds like a perfectly plausible explanation to me for that kind of toning.
Whether PCGS agrees or not remains to be seen, of course.
"AU55 or better" also sounds plausible to me.
Be sure to update us with results and TrueView when the time comes!
Be sure to update us with results and TrueView when the time comes!
I have a new batch of coins going in soon, waiting to receive 2 more coins in the mail in the coming days. I should have all my orders ready/assembled for submitting by the end of this week. Will keep you posted ...
These low grade silver pieces tend to pick up that mottled toning, I would venture a guess that their is a bit more luster than the photos could show...
Regardless, quite a nice piece!
Justin Meunier
Boardwalk Numismatics
Looks like it would grade AU50-AU55...
These low grade silver pieces tend to pick up that mottled toning, I would venture a guess that their is a bit more luster than the photos could show...
Regardless, quite a nice piece!
Obviously you meant "low grade" in terms of silver content, not grade grade.
But yes, I know what you mean.
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You do see this toning pattern on many of the low fineness German States minors, they tend to look quite nice in hand though
Justin Meunier
Boardwalk Numismatics