UPDATED arrived today 1979 Cartwheel Twopence (what grade?????)

coffeyce · February 23, 2015 3:21PM

Heres one im adding to the collection any guess on the grade would help

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nicholasz219 · February 23, 2015 5:37PM

Coffeyce, that is a pretty nice cartwheel. Typically they are very used and abused when for sale. I am not sure how to factor in the rim damage at 12 o'clock on the reverse for the grade. In details, I think that XF is pretty reasonable of a grade. VF+ at minimum, or if you follow European grading standards.

coffeyce · February 23, 2015 8:41PM

will the damaged keep it from grading

7Jaguars · February 23, 2015 9:19PM

Shouldn't.

ajaan · February 23, 2015 9:34PM

That isn't really damage for these coins. Should grade AU at a US TPG.

coffeyce · February 23, 2015 11:51PM

well im gonna give it a try to pcgs here in hk

I have a brit 1807 and 1855 Penny

(2) 1910 pesos, 1-1911 peso, (2) 1921 2 peso, 1- 1901/802 Honduras 25 cent, the 1879 Florin, 1890 peru 1/2 dinero, 1884 india 2 annas, 1855 usa 1/2 cent and 1922 Russian 50 kopeks going with it so wish me luck

chris

JCMhouston · February 24, 2015 12:06AM

I think PCGS will give it an EF or so, it should grade from the images, they are generally pretty easy going on damage to these.

bronzemat · February 24, 2015 12:11AM

Something on my want list. Great coin!

coffeyce · February 24, 2015 12:32AM

well it was 200$ gamble but ive always wanted one in decent shape and wish a chance of grading I said WTH

SaorAlba · February 24, 2015 10:54AM

What an amazing relic of the nascent stages of the industrial age - without steam powered presses huge thick coins like this one wouldn't have been possible.

mnemtsas2 · February 24, 2015 11:24AM

AU50-53 IMHO.

lordmarcovan · February 24, 2015 3:28PM

<< <i>That isn't really damage for these coins. Should grade AU at a US TPG. >>

I agree.

That is a very nice Cartwheel. The rim ding is unfortunate, but pretty typical. Nice sharp detail on that one.

nicholasz219 · February 24, 2015 6:22PM

Yeah I guess I really do undergrade from the way this thread is going. But I was not sure if it would be AU with the ding or if the details were strong enough for AU as well. I never see these in grades higher than maybe VF so I'm out of my depth. But a great coin nonetheless.

coinkat · February 24, 2015 8:21PM

Unable to get a good sense of the surfaces from the images. Could go 45 or as high as 53

Eclectic · February 24, 2015 9:58PM

I know one thing, it certainly isn't from '1979' as stated in the title!!!!!!!!

ajaan · February 24, 2015 10:10PM

Can PCGS or NGC put a 2d in a holder now? At one time they couldn't because the coin was too thick.

Never mind, I see from the PCGS pop report they slab these now.

lordmarcovan · February 25, 2015 3:39PM

<< <i>Can PCGS or NGC put a 2d in a holder now? At one time they couldn't because the coin was too thick.

Never mind, I see from the PCGS pop report they slab these now. >>

Yeah, I recently saw a picture of one in PCGS plastic and was kind of surprised.

asheland · March 4, 2015 6:33AM

AU53

marcmoish · March 5, 2015 1:47AM

yup agreed - sud really grade AU53.

Maybe 50 at first

Nice piece.

coffeyce · March 8, 2015 3:08PM

Alright coin arrived in hand.

Ill ship it to PCGS with a few others at end of the month

nicholasz219 · March 8, 2015 7:18PM

Ohhhh thats pretty!

asheland · March 9, 2015 1:57AM

Nice!

coinkat · March 9, 2015 11:20AM

I don't think the added picture changes my initial range for the grade

brg5658 · March 9, 2015 12:55PM

My first reaction was "XF45"...I wouldn't be too surprised or disturbed to see it in an AU50 holder.

nicholasz219 · March 9, 2015 4:03PM

Thanks brg, now I don't feel so off in my initial XF assessment.

UPDATED arrived today 1979 Cartwheel Twopence (what grade?????)

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